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One rally from yesterday's tournament. I am on the 2. table against the guy in the green shirt.



The whole match. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSQkZhbTwUs

I tried C&F 1.0 and P1r 0.5 (again). C&F has very little dwell time on JSH, so you can't add much spin. Like Pipsy said in other thread, it lacks control and that is gonna cost you points in real games.

P1r is the opposite of C&F. With P1r you must be very active and do all kind of swipes all the times like windmill. With C&F you don't have time or grip to do anything.

Practise games with P1r went well as I won them. As expected, I dumped quite a few balls in the net and some other I popped up against underspin. There was unique disturbance with P1r, as with my usual equipment I give mostly fastish floaters. With P1r you can get serious side spin and short balls. Pure chopping was joy with P1r if you go low enough and chop the bottom of the ball and not the back, I could get great spin. Even in 0.5 P1r takes steem off well from hard loops.

And intrestingly, when you play with P1r, you become automatically more chopper like player in both sides, as you forced to make full chopping moves and to take lower stance.

I tend to agree with that.

I chop way more...it really kind of puts you in that chopper position for whatever reason. With more ox or slippery pips, I tend to hang at the table more and attack more. I also tend to attack with the Pips more... What I don't like is push blocking too much...and P-1R makes me act more active even though I'm at distance.

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I weighted JSH and it is 102g. CWX is around 85g. CWX is 171g with Tenergy+Sanwei Code 1.0. JSH with same rubbers is 188g, which is borderline too heavy, partly because of lond head adds momentum. At least wristy flips are hard to do.

Saturday I will play tournament and I will propably play with CWX, as I do too many easy mistakes with JSH. BH is just too fast. The FH in JSH is in many ways better than CWX, as I can play way more direct and make shots that are impossible with CWX. On the other hand, slower speed of CWX is just more forgiving.

I think that thicker and slower sponged grippy pips in the BH and maybe softer and lighter rubber in the FH are needed to tame the JSH.

(Another thread on the subject I missed... viewtopic.php?t=25454&p=271534 )

Did you like the defplay ? i have 2 but im playing with a cut down grubba pro at the moment

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igorponger wrote:

Day -by-day inhalation of the speed glues is not any good for health..

I liked Defplay with old ball, with Rakza 7 and ox pips. With new ball Rakza 7 felt slippery and T05+Defplay was slow and too high throw. I don't think I am going back with Defplay.

cheers .

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igorponger wrote:

Day -by-day inhalation of the speed glues is not any good for health..

Some observations.

1. Dtecs ox chops really stable with JSH, some good blocks, but quite fast.

2. P1r 1.0 chopped really well with JSH (much better than with CWX) with dangerous variations. Other shots than chop were a problem Some players just play with little spin and I was in trouble. Maybe I try to go for this combination in the summer...

3. T64 did not feel good with JSH, not the rubber for me.

4. Older sheets of T05 feel too hard and ungrippy. With CWX T05 feels very different, much mushier. JSH is more difficult to play with less control.

5. I need lighter FH rubber with JSH as the blade is way too heavy with 1.0 pips.

6. I have clearly more control with CWX than with JSH - both from FH and BH side.

7. For now I returned to CWX, control is suberb from both side.