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PostPosted: 01 Sep 2018, 03:44 
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Hello everyone! I am a new member. I have played tabletennis for 4 year. I played a 5-ply of wood blade, and now i am playing a 7-ply of wood blade. But with the new ball, i feel the speed of the hitting ball is so slowly. also with the blocking with the hand fatigue. So i want to buy an cheap ALC blade about 40$. I have some choice from DHS: PG5, H301, Fangbo2....
If you played those blades, could you compare the feeling of them?
Or propose another blades which you played good with a cheap price.
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Sorry I can't help with the choice but they all have faith good reviews, especially 301.

What are the 5 and 7 ply? Could you use thicker rubbers?

What level do you play, do you need to upgrade?

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PostPosted: 01 Sep 2018, 10:13 
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Cobalt wrote:
Sorry I can't help with the choice but they all have faith good reviews, especially 301.

What are the 5 and 7 ply? Could you use thicker rubbers?

What level do you play, do you need to upgrade?

Thanks for your attention. I don't know my level now, but my play is the blance of Bh and Fh, the distance frrom table is near or medium. I like defence and then attacking after, good control. Before i only play some cheap ALL blade for starting, they are yinhe n10, pg8, after i play a 7-ply wood blade that made in my country, it 's off blade. But now with the new ball i have some difficulty from hitting the ball strong, or defending attacking balls,... so i want to play a composite blade to improve the quality of my balls.


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This one:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 81812.html

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(Wheel? :lol: )

or this one:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 53618.html

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PostPosted: 02 Sep 2018, 14:54 
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iskandar taib wrote:

I haven't played XVT before...


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PostPosted: 02 Sep 2018, 16:43 
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Hi there depends on what type of style u play chinese (play harder rubbers with medium flex and stiffness blades) or european (hard blades with medium hard rubbers)

If u play chinese style go with any blade with medium stiffness and flex (both about 5 to 6/10 on revspin.net) around as flex helps with the top spin and loop from FH,esp stiga infinity vps v or 729 bomb dont go with carbon immediately as u will have hard time to adapt as they are quite fast.Chinese always have tensor rubbers on BH esp t05 with harder sponge or t80 with harder sponge. At the price u r trying to buy currently stiga infinity vps v is available for 45 dollars on table tennis 11.I wanted to buy this so bad but i got second hand great looking blades from my club mentor at half the price and these blades are amazing by xiom but expensive.

With european style u can go with any of the hard blades i mean with stiffness and hardness around 7 to 8 and any medium hard rubber


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M.Hoang wrote:
Cobalt wrote:
Sorry I can't help with the choice but they all have faith good reviews, especially 301.

What are the 5 and 7 ply? Could you use thicker rubbers?

What level do you play, do you need to upgrade?

Thanks for your attention. I don't know my level now, but my play is the blance of Bh and Fh, the distance frrom table is near or medium. I like defence and then attacking after, good control. Before i only play some cheap ALL blade for starting, they are yinhe n10, pg8, after i play a 7-ply wood blade that made in my country, it 's off blade. But now with the new ball i have some difficulty from hitting the ball strong, or defending attacking balls,... so i want to play a composite blade to improve the quality of my balls.
I don't think that N10 or Pg8 are that slow. Both around Off-. You may gain speed from carbon but will lose elsewhere. You should be able to generate plenty of speed from those. The top players at my club all use Off- or slower. The best player in our region uses All+. They do however all use Euro tensor rubbers in max thickness.

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PostPosted: 02 Sep 2018, 21:39 
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Blade: Hurricane Long 3
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What rubber are you using/liking?

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darucla wrote:
What rubber are you using/liking?

Thanks for all help. I am using chinese rubber. And i also want to buy a chinese blade to play for a long time. Those blade are some i found that having good reviews.


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Cobalt wrote:
M.Hoang wrote:
Cobalt wrote:
Sorry I can't help with the choice but they all have faith good reviews, especially 301.

What are the 5 and 7 ply? Could you use thicker rubbers?

What level do you play, do you need to upgrade?

Thanks for your attention. I don't know my level now, but my play is the blance of Bh and Fh, the distance frrom table is near or medium. I like defence and then attacking after, good control. Before i only play some cheap ALL blade for starting, they are yinhe n10, pg8, after i play a 7-ply wood blade that made in my country, it 's off blade. But now with the new ball i have some difficulty from hitting the ball strong, or defending attacking balls,... so i want to play a composite blade to improve the quality of my balls.
I don't think that N10 or Pg8 are that slow. Both around Off-. You may gain speed from carbon but will lose elsewhere. You should be able to generate plenty of speed from those. The top players at my club all use Off- or slower. The best player in our region uses All+. They do however all use Euro tensor rubbers in max thickness.

Do they play with hard rubbers? I know that many good players use off- or off blade with hard rubbers.


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M.Hoang wrote:
darucla wrote:
What rubber are you using/liking?

Thanks for all help. I am using chinese rubber. And i also want to buy a chinese blade to play for a long time. Those blade are some i found that having good reviews.


I play with chinese on FH then u should go with 729 bomb great blade with harder outer layers and u can generate enough power and it costs only 18 dollars in usa one of the best, for me it played like a carbon blade. Always go with off blade so u learn to control ur game when u have mastered it then go grab a carbon off blade. I consider 729 bomb one of the best blades ever if u go on revspin it has so many reviews u can read through them.This blade is darn good fro blocking and looping.I play with for practice and then recently i graduated to xion zeta quad.729 Bomb has cork layer in middle so it never loses its flexibility,Who ever designed it its a masterpiece. I have a piece of advice dont go for off plus blades ever and waste money. u use off blades and buy slightly faster rubber than before to control the speed.I wasted approximately 400 dollars trying new blades.If u use chinese on FH then go with tensor on BH if ur budget is 40 dollars for tensor rubber i would go for rakza 7 or rakza x or yasaka valmo,if budget is around 20 dollars go for battle 1 rubber.For me the rubber which comes closest to t05 is rakza 7 and mxp, but mxp doesnot last long rakza 7 u can use it for about 6 months.
With chinese rubbers i will remind u u need to have some flex or else if u put them on hard blades u cant play close to table i mean it bcoz u cant generate enough force.It will be darn too slow and ur opponent will kill u.


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Problem with the Bomb is they (729) does not make it any more. You can still find them around but it's old stock (not that blades expire or anything... :lol: ). There was a shop in the Phillipines that had some... they sell online. All the usual Chinese sources don't have it.

Try a Yinhe N11.. it's a little on the fast side. And it's cheap, so you won't waste much if you end up not liking it. I used it a lot, and eventually went to something SLOWER (and even cheaper!). Now my loops and blocks are more consistent and I hit the table more.

M.Hoang wrote:
I haven't played XVT before...


I suspect they OEM blades for a lot of other companies.

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Blade: XIOM ZETA TETRA QUAD
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Fortunately us stores still have bomb available esp zero pong where i brought my two of them and then sanded them appropriately to fit my hands
they are for 18 bucks a piece


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iskandar taib wrote:
Problem with the Bomb is they (729) does not make it any more.

Not true, it's still made, we got a batch only recently.

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Blade: Hurricane Long 3
FH: DHS Hurricane 8
BH: Tibhar MX-P
Of the 3 DHS blades mentioned in the first post, I actually have them all. The one I used for the last season is the H301 , which has pretty much everything I could want (I bought it when recovering from a broken wrist to help with a bit more power than my HL3). Good control and lots of power on tap, without being ridiculously fast. And clearly works with Chinese rubber. The FB2 is very similar, but a little less dynamic in my experience, although I haven't played with it in a year or so. The PG5 was bought as a backup to the FB2, but is a little underwhelming. The 301 should last many years.

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