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Hi guys,
Looking around in this forum,using search and the equipment review for the characteristics of the two carbon typed blades. At the end, I have no choice but to post this thread.

I hope to know the differences between the two types of carbon layers. What effects, in comparison, they made to the blade？

Also please advise me about some brands(blades) that have only thin layers of these two kinds of carbon(separate of course).

I am at the final stage of deciding for a Handshake blade, that is fast(not extreme fast), and great control(due to carbon layers?). Prices below that of HK Possible?

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My TT kits:
1. Xiom Jazz: 729 Faster 2.2mm, H3 neo 2.2mm
2. Clipper wood: Andro Roxon 450 2.2mm, H3 prov(2.2mm)
3. Btty Viscaria: Gambler SS , and Outlaw.

The style that you describe lends itself to the gambler arylyte carbon.

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Equally I would say the Galaxy T-8 would do the job. A lot depends on the rubbers put on it to though Jix. I don't find the T8 to be any faster than the HK, and the T8 has quite a nice feel to it also. I now have Tenergy (thanks Choi) on the T8 with C8 on the back. And I was hitting on the board last night with it comparing to HK with Omega II on it. I thought the speed was quite similar, although I think the OII has more control.

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S/U 1: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Andro Rasant 2.1 . BH Red Tibhar Grass Dtecs
S/U 2: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Hexer+ 2.1 . BH Red GD Talon
S/U 3: Blade: Bty Gergely . No rubbers...thinking of adding Red Dtecs and Black Rasant
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Yinhe DE-1: 4 wood plies and 3 arylate plies.

The feel of the blade will be affected by the thickness of the carbon layer, the type (solid, weave, etc) and where it's located within the plies (eg right near the surface or buried deep) and probably more factors... Since all of these effect the feel of the blade, making the choice is a little more complicated...

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Thanks guys. How about the difference(s) between arylate and kevlar? Is Kevlar stiffer and more bouncy?

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My TT kits:
1. Xiom Jazz: 729 Faster 2.2mm, H3 neo 2.2mm
2. Clipper wood: Andro Roxon 450 2.2mm, H3 prov(2.2mm)
3. Btty Viscaria: Gambler SS , and Outlaw.

Arylate gives you softer feel and Kevlar gives harder feel but blades with both are stiff.

Anyone know the differences when either the arylate or kevlar is paired up with different woods?

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In my experience, Arylate blades are slightly stiffer, marginally harder and more bouncy than kevlar blades.

If we were to look at Arylate, Kevlar, Aramid and Zylon, I'd rate them as

Hardness (hard to soft)
Zylon > Arylate > Aramid > Kevlar
Stiffness (stiff to flex)
Zylon > Arylate > Kevlar > Aramid
Rebound (fast to slow)
Zylon > Arylate > Aramid > Kevlar

Mind you the differences are tiny. You get more change due to wood formula than to the different materials.

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Wery nice Silver

Thanks a lot guys. I sure am having better undersstanding now about the kevlar and arylate. It helps in my decision to get a new blade. Reb, looks like you are right, T8!

Nevertheless, AVX J Aramid carbon a supplementary!?!?

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My TT kits:
1. Xiom Jazz: 729 Faster 2.2mm, H3 neo 2.2mm
2. Clipper wood: Andro Roxon 450 2.2mm, H3 prov(2.2mm)
3. Btty Viscaria: Gambler SS , and Outlaw.

If I would be you it would be oposite AVX J Aramid main and T-8 supplementary

Have you tried either or both Purger? I don't know the AVX J Aramid. I assume its a quality blade though. I have never used an Aramid blade although I have been tempted by the look of some of the Andros.

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I'm always in the dark, but the Dark sheds lights upon everything!! Beauty is only pimple deep! Beauty is in the eye of the pipholder!
S/U 1: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Andro Rasant 2.1 . BH Red Tibhar Grass Dtecs
S/U 2: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Hexer+ 2.1 . BH Red GD Talon
S/U 3: Blade: Bty Gergely . No rubbers...thinking of adding Red Dtecs and Black Rasant
Aussie Table Tennis Shop / Aussie Table Tennis Facebook Page / Equipment Review Index / Read my Reb Report Blog: click here.

Absolutely agree buddy. Remember the guy who offered me Accoustic if I be his sparing partner for certain months? Well I negotiate on the sparing time span. He agrees but it would be a AVX Aramid carbob instead of Accoustic, for reduced sparing period.

I accepted the counter offer. His words :"You buy and I pay!"

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My TT kits:
1. Xiom Jazz: 729 Faster 2.2mm, H3 neo 2.2mm
2. Clipper wood: Andro Roxon 450 2.2mm, H3 prov(2.2mm)
3. Btty Viscaria: Gambler SS , and Outlaw.

Haggisv, Your information is greatly appreciated. It provides me with a good
concept of plies-wood combination effect. Thanks.

By the way, I have juz confirmed an order to you. Do you provide glueing rubber to blade service? FOC or at a fee?It is not included in the order process so I have to check out with you.

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My TT kits:
1. Xiom Jazz: 729 Faster 2.2mm, H3 neo 2.2mm
2. Clipper wood: Andro Roxon 450 2.2mm, H3 prov(2.2mm)
3. Btty Viscaria: Gambler SS , and Outlaw.