OOAK Table Tennis Forum

Hey all,
I've just had a hit with my 5-year-old Butterfly Wakaba pre-made. It's well and truly dead, but as an anti player, I don't mind it! Of course, I would get flogged if I used it in a match, but it's dead enough to use like an anti, but I can still attack with very powerful flat drives - it *just* gets enough spin to curl down and land on the other side. Being a compulsive twiddler, I can use one side to loop, and the other side to flat hit and use (kind of) like an anti.

Thus I would like to know if anyone has any suggestions of:
1. Where I can get my hands on a Wakaba or Addoy rubber without getting a blade as well (or trying to remove it from my old blade).
or
2. A similar rubber - dead; very low spin (preferably a beginner's rubber like that old one - I don't know why I like it, but I do)!

Cheers

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Main Setups: Giant Dragon Kris II, DHS H3 Neo, Yasaka Anti Power or Giant Dragon Kris II, DHS H3 Neo, Dr Neubauer Bison
Backups: Yinhe N-9, DHS Hurricane 3 Provincial (Blue Sponge, no. 22), Yasaka Anti Power or Yinhe N-9, DHS Hurricane 3 Neo, Butterfly Super Anti

Help me find a new blade please!

Only self-proclaimed unofficial spin doctor of OOAK. Call me Joe or musicfreak
The author of How Spin Works. The Official How Spin Works Thread. How Spin Works goes to India! See my 3D Printed/Laser Cut blade experiment blog.

They market them as beginner rubber, slow, unspinny, perfect for blocking game, but not an anti.

Butterfly Addoy
Butterfly Wakaba
JOOLA 4-All
Donic Liga
Stiga Cobra 2000
Cornilleau Pilot Control
Donic Vario
Butterfly Pan Asia
Andro Impuls Speed
Donic Coppa Tenero
Dawei 2008 (Super Power)
Donic Twingo
Banda Rossa Soft
Tibhar Rapid Soft

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Many thanks, BeGo! I'll be sure to check them out.

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Main Setups: Giant Dragon Kris II, DHS H3 Neo, Yasaka Anti Power or Giant Dragon Kris II, DHS H3 Neo, Dr Neubauer Bison
Backups: Yinhe N-9, DHS Hurricane 3 Provincial (Blue Sponge, no. 22), Yasaka Anti Power or Yinhe N-9, DHS Hurricane 3 Neo, Butterfly Super Anti

Help me find a new blade please!

Only self-proclaimed unofficial spin doctor of OOAK. Call me Joe or musicfreak
The author of How Spin Works. The Official How Spin Works Thread. How Spin Works goes to India! See my 3D Printed/Laser Cut blade experiment blog.

mf you could customise your old blade-take one rubber off and replace it with antispin
my son has an old premade with dr evil on one side and pan asia on the other.i customised it for him.

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igorponger wrote:

Day -by-day inhalation of the speed glues is not any good for health..

Not a bad idea at all; but I'd like to keep my old blade as is - makes a good loaner for mates who don't play TT. Also, I'd probably use inverted rubber like an anti (or maybe an SP); for blocking and flat hits, maybe with something like H3 so I can keep my spinny serves, loops, & chops. Thanks for the suggestion, all the same.

In regards to that list, most of those rubbers seem more expensive when bought without a blade - can't seem to find any of them very cheap anyhow. Perhaps I should keep an eye out for a used rubber?

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Main Setups: Giant Dragon Kris II, DHS H3 Neo, Yasaka Anti Power or Giant Dragon Kris II, DHS H3 Neo, Dr Neubauer Bison
Backups: Yinhe N-9, DHS Hurricane 3 Provincial (Blue Sponge, no. 22), Yasaka Anti Power or Yinhe N-9, DHS Hurricane 3 Neo, Butterfly Super Anti

Help me find a new blade please!

Only self-proclaimed unofficial spin doctor of OOAK. Call me Joe or musicfreak
The author of How Spin Works. The Official How Spin Works Thread. How Spin Works goes to India! See my 3D Printed/Laser Cut blade experiment blog.

Gambler Reflectoid is rather dead and not that spin-sensitive.

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USATT: 1807 | League: 1887

Friendship's "half-anti" 804 may be what you are looking for.

Their 802 short pimple rubber may also work for you. It is quite dead if you use thin sponge. I used it with 0.5mm sponge, but the thinnest I could find today was 1mm.

Butterfly Flextra, very middle of the road, and still available. Might have more spin than you want at first but leave it uncovered in a sunny window a few days and I'm sure it will get dead as you want.

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Sadly yes.

The cheapest is Dawei at usd 8.



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My favourite rubber Dawei 2008 (Super Power). Seems to do everything I want it to. So I never play with any other rubber. The 1.8 and above thickness is a bit heavy. So I use 1.5 with long pips on the BH and seem to get by OK when faced with opposition below and above my level (up to a point of course! ) I know exactly what you mean about dead rubbers MF as I seem to thrive better with a bat with dead rubbers rather than with those with superduper expensive and fast rubbers which offer me little or no control for my liking

My overly simplistic theory is that old dead rubbers you typically find on well-used premades etc. help with at least two things:

* Better control - you are much less likely to send ball long and
* Spin immunity: much easier to deal with serves and whatever your opponent might be sending you during the rallies. Yes, you probably won't be able to loop well and take advantage of topspin bringing the ball down to the table, but I suspect by now you figured out how to hit the ball instead.

Up to certain level you don't really win points, instead you 'don't lose' them. Most of your points come from opponent making unforced mistakes and not from you blasting non-returnable loop etc. So, whoever stays in the rally longer and makes fewer mistakes ends up winning.

It does limit your progress, though...

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USATT: 1807 | League: 1887

Agree with pgpg
For me Dawei besides being slow and offering good control for blocking and chopping, also offers good grip which allows moderate topspin. I am not looking to progress in anyway but one thing I know for sure is that it has made my game play stronger through sheer consistency in keeping a lot of returns on the table against opposition up to reasonable and decent levels above mine thereby resulting in far more wins than losses which for me is quite satisfying playing the sport from a merely social & relaxing perspective.

Try Reactor Ckylin... Not exactly dead, but really, really slow.

Iskandar

That's my kind of rubber. Thanks Iskandar

Thanks all! I'll address the suggestions separately:


Tried them both: I've got the 804 on an old blade - probably not enough spin. I'm looking for a normal rubber, and I think the 802 grips a bit too much for when I'm chopping (only used it in 1.5mm). Thanks all the same - can't hurt to try them out again.



Spot on there - but I'll be keeping a normal rubber for my loops (I just prefer the dead ones for flat-hitting and blocking), so that way I'll have that "spin immunity" like an anti, but also that control and attack that I can't quite get on an anti.



I'll investigate - I don't need something super slow, per se, just something really controllable.

Thanks to all others who have suggested rubbers - I'll have a look around.

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Main Setups: Giant Dragon Kris II, DHS H3 Neo, Yasaka Anti Power or Giant Dragon Kris II, DHS H3 Neo, Dr Neubauer Bison
Backups: Yinhe N-9, DHS Hurricane 3 Provincial (Blue Sponge, no. 22), Yasaka Anti Power or Yinhe N-9, DHS Hurricane 3 Neo, Butterfly Super Anti

Help me find a new blade please!

Only self-proclaimed unofficial spin doctor of OOAK. Call me Joe or musicfreak
The author of How Spin Works. The Official How Spin Works Thread. How Spin Works goes to India! See my 3D Printed/Laser Cut blade experiment blog.