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 Post subject: Re: gambler reflectoid
PostPosted: 04 Nov 2010, 22:37 
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 Post subject: Re: gambler reflectoid
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I must chime in here too. Reflectoid was what I tried for my 1st custom bat (on the bh). It's a very good rubber! My topspin stroke on my bh is very upward and not as much foward which is a great combo with this rubber. It is also very easy to control the ball when chopping. Also, I agree it is a great tool to block a smash and slow the game down. It is very tacky (a bit more so in the black). It will bottom out if you loop hard or smash which does goof up your control a bit. I've quickly become addicted to LP on my bh, but keep it on a racket or two of mine.
By the way my experience is with the 2.0mm version on a Gambler TSU Whirlwind. I have a sheet of 1.5mm red that I'm due to glue on somthing at some point... If I was going to go for an inverted chopping game I'd use this for sure. :nod:

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 Post subject: Re: gambler reflectoid
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Hi Haggis, sponge thckness 1.5 there are other thickness out there but for me why mess around with perfection.... :rofl: :D :D :party:


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 Post subject: Re: gambler reflectoid
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Just curious if anyone has tried it in 1.0 for dedicated chopping on the BH side. ("....if short pips can, maybe...")

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 Post subject: Re: gambler reflectoid
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Slade wrote:
Just curious if anyone has tried it in 1.0 for dedicated chopping on the BH side. ("....if short pips can, maybe...")

I tried the 2.0mm (as originally posted) and more recentaly the 1.5mm. There is a tremendous difference between to two! The 1.5mm gives great control and spin for chopping. The 1mm would probably bottom out even on chops of harder hit balls since the 1.5mm really is soft.

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 Post subject: Re: gambler reflectoid
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I used the 2.0mm and liked it a lot for chopping as it doesn't bottom out. Does feel slightly mushy though. The attack aspect is a different story as flat hitting close to the table is more effective with this rubber...don't try to win with a loop kill! Ain't gonna happen :?:


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 Post subject: Re: gambler reflectoid
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Been reading-up quite a bit on the Reflectoid, so reactivating this post...

Just wondering how this Rubber would work with a Defplay Senso V3, for chopping close-to-mid-distance from the table ?

Also, I don't see this rubber anywhere, except Megaspin (only 2mm available) ... Anywhere else?


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 Post subject: Re: gambler reflectoid
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Been reading-up quite a bit on the Reflectoid, so reactivating this post...

Just wondering how this Rubber would work with a Defplay Senso V3, for chopping close-to-mid-distance from the table ?

Also, I don't see this rubber anywhere, except Megaspin (only 2mm available) ... Anywhere else?

you could also get it at zeropong :D It would work just fine with Defplay Senso for what you want, as long as your technique is alright. I assume you are able to chop with your current Mark V on your BH just fine...? I'm also going to assume you are NOT trying to replace your Vega Europe, 'cause there is really no point... lol, anyways, it will be slower than Mark V for sure, and more "controlled". It might also be easier for you to impart spin on close to the table shots, depending on the feel/touch you have in the ball.

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 Post subject: Re: gambler reflectoid
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Danthespearton HQ wrote:
you could also get it at zeropong :D


Yup, saw it on Zeropong, priced at $14 for the rubber, which is fine. What makes it a triple-starred deal-breaker is $24 for the international shipping...I dunno bout the rest of you guyz, but I don't quite fancy shelling-out 150% of the value of the product, just for shipping.

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It would work just fine with Defplay Senso for what you want, as long as your technique is alright. I assume you are able to chop with your current Mark V on your BH just fine...? I'm also going to assume you are NOT trying to replace your Vega Europe, 'cause there is really no point... lol, anyways, it will be slower than Mark V for sure, and more "controlled". It might also be easier for you to impart spin on close to the table shots, depending on the feel/touch you have in the ball.


I switched to a Pogo LP in OX, very recently, and am going to continue with LP... I'm not a chopper (away from the table) However, after switching to LP, I've realised thas I'm moving away from the table, in an attempt to chop... It's not something that I a make a conscious effort to do, it just happens. However, with the Pogo LP, I'm getting very little or no back-spin, which makes it easy for my opponents to kill. So, I'm toying with the idea of having a second setup, this time, with an inverted chopping rubber.

No, getting the Reflectoid as a replacement for the XVE would just be plain silly (I guess)... I'm thinking of using it along-side a rubber such as Mark V (??)...Perhaps, even a 729 Focus Snipe 3 (which I already have).


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 Post subject: Re: gambler reflectoid
PostPosted: 15 Apr 2018, 21:26 
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Danthespearton HQ wrote:
you could also get it at zeropong :D


Yup, saw it on Zeropong, priced at $14 for the rubber, which is fine. What makes it a triple-starred deal-breaker is $24 for the international shipping...I dunno bout the rest of you guyz, but I don't quite fancy shelling-out 150% of the value of the product, just for shipping.

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It would work just fine with Defplay Senso for what you want, as long as your technique is alright. I assume you are able to chop with your current Mark V on your BH just fine...? I'm also going to assume you are NOT trying to replace your Vega Europe, 'cause there is really no point... lol, anyways, it will be slower than Mark V for sure, and more "controlled". It might also be easier for you to impart spin on close to the table shots, depending on the feel/touch you have in the ball.


I switched to a Pogo LP in OX, very recently, and am going to continue with LP... I'm not a chopper (away from the table) However, after switching to LP, I've realised thas I'm moving away from the table, in an attempt to chop... It's not something that I a make a conscious effort to do, it just happens. However, with the Pogo LP, I'm getting very little or no back-spin, which makes it easy for my opponents to kill. So, I'm toying with the idea of having a second setup, this time, with an inverted chopping rubber.

No, getting the Reflectoid as a replacement for the XVE would just be plain silly (I guess)... I'm thinking of using it along-side a rubber such as Mark V (??)...Perhaps, even a 729 Focus Snipe 3 (which I already have).
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 Post subject: Re: gambler reflectoid
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so_devo wrote:
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Danthespearton HQ wrote:
you could also get it at zeropong :D


Yup, saw it on Zeropong, priced at $14 for the rubber, which is fine. What makes it a triple-starred deal-breaker is $24 for the international shipping...I dunno bout the rest of you guyz, but I don't quite fancy shelling-out 150% of the value of the product, just for shipping.

Danthespearton HQ wrote:
It would work just fine with Defplay Senso for what you want, as long as your technique is alright. I assume you are able to chop with your current Mark V on your BH just fine...? I'm also going to assume you are NOT trying to replace your Vega Europe, 'cause there is really no point... lol, anyways, it will be slower than Mark V for sure, and more "controlled". It might also be easier for you to impart spin on close to the table shots, depending on the feel/touch you have in the ball.


I switched to a Pogo LP in OX, very recently, and am going to continue with LP... I'm not a chopper (away from the table) However, after switching to LP, I've realised thas I'm moving away from the table, in an attempt to chop... It's not something that I a make a conscious effort to do, it just happens. However, with the Pogo LP, I'm getting very little or no back-spin, which makes it easy for my opponents to kill. So, I'm toying with the idea of having a second setup, this time, with an inverted chopping rubber.

No, getting the Reflectoid as a replacement for the XVE would just be plain silly (I guess)... I'm thinking of using it along-side a rubber such as Mark V (??)...Perhaps, even a 729 Focus Snipe 3 (which I already have).
Where are you based ootbs?

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 Post subject: Re: gambler reflectoid
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If you do a google search for 'Gambler Reflectoid' (have you tried this?), quite a few places pop up in addition to Zeropong and Megaspin: OOAK shop, Bribar, ttnpp.com... I stopped looking after first page. Presumably some of them will have better shipping costs to India.

http://ttnpp.com/store/gambler/366-reflectoid-sg-6.html

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If you do a google search for 'Gambler Reflectoid' (have you tried this?), quite a few places pop up in addition to Zeropong and Megaspin: OOAK shop, Bribar, ttnpp.com... I stopped looking after first page. Presumably some of them will have better shipping costs to India.

http://ttnpp.com/store/gambler/366-reflectoid-sg-6.html


The rubber is Out Of Stock on ttnpp


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pgpg wrote:
If you do a google search for 'Gambler Reflectoid' (have you tried this?), quite a few places pop up in addition to Zeropong and Megaspin: OOAK shop, Bribar, ttnpp.com... I stopped looking after first page. Presumably some of them will have better shipping costs to India.

http://ttnpp.com/store/gambler/366-reflectoid-sg-6.html


The rubber is Out Of Stock on ttnpp


OK, then it might mean that it will be tough/expensive for you to get this specific rubber. Try some other thin defensive rubber, like Marder if you are all set on double inverted chopping (which probably has its own issues).

I would also probably revisit 'no backspin with POGO' situation, because it can mean so many things: your opponent is very good at looping backspin, you are not very good at chopping loops and are sending back high floating ball that is easily killed, there was no loop to begin with so you had no spin to work with etc. etc.

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