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Hi everyone! I'm playing with an old slow def blade, forehand tackiness C 1,9, bh meteor 8512 def 0,6. The tackiness is too old and I cand put spin on the boll, if it's dead, and its a very big problem as my opponent can loop very easily on a dead ball, I cant force him to play slow topspin I can handle. And if I change the side, I cant confuse my opponent so much because there is not a big difference between the pushing with the lp and puching with inverted

I tried the x-plode max on an allround blade, an I have to say it's almost the same es tenergy(and the rubber I treid was more then 1 year old!) I could do everything with the ball.

How about an 1,8 on the def blade? Have anyone tried something like that?

Greetings from Hungary

Bence

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Blade: TSP standard BH: Butterfly feint long III OX black FH: Milkyway Neptune OX red. Style: chopper.

Hi Bence,

Coming from a tackiness that is so worn out that it can't create spin, I think anything with tensor properties would probably seem like tenergy. But I seriously doubt Joola Express x-plode is truly like tenergy. If it was there would be a lot of people talking about the case. No matter though, if you liked it and it suits you then thats what matters. It may not have quite the punch it had for you on an allround blade, but putting it onto your old def blade is going to spruce up the feel of it in a big way I am sure.

8512 is a good reliable pip. I played with it for quite some time. I found pogo to have better properties to advance my game in terms of control, drive and less spin sensitivity. But I play on a fast OFF+ blade, so I suspect we have a different game and aim for our game progression.

Anyway, I doubt you could go wrong with putting that rubber on your blade if you already tried it and liked it, even on a slightly faster blade.

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I'm always in the dark, but the Dark sheds lights upon everything!! Beauty is only pimple deep! Beauty is in the eye of the pipholder!
S/U 1: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Andro Rasant 2.1 . BH Red Tibhar Grass Dtecs
S/U 2: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Hexer+ 2.1 . BH Red GD Talon
S/U 3: Blade: Bty Gergely . No rubbers...thinking of adding Red Dtecs and Black Rasant
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In our club, many peaple tried donic's versions for tenergy, stiga, and joola versions, and according to them, x-plode was the most similar, and according to mee, too (I have played acuda, too)

My style is chopper, between classical and modern(I like "fishing" with my fore, chop, and countertopspin)

I asked this question because of the blade, but because of the sponge, too(I have a bit difficulties in chopping with max) What do you think about a 1,8 after the max?

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Blade: TSP standard BH: Butterfly feint long III OX black FH: Milkyway Neptune OX red. Style: chopper.

1.8 will definitely have more control than the max.

I haven't played with x-plode, so I can only take your word for its similarity with tenergy. I simply have not heard that before. Its a new one on me.

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I'm always in the dark, but the Dark sheds lights upon everything!! Beauty is only pimple deep! Beauty is in the eye of the pipholder!
S/U 1: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Andro Rasant 2.1 . BH Red Tibhar Grass Dtecs
S/U 2: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Hexer+ 2.1 . BH Red GD Talon
S/U 3: Blade: Bty Gergely . No rubbers...thinking of adding Red Dtecs and Black Rasant
Aussie Table Tennis Shop / Aussie Table Tennis Facebook Page / Equipment Review Index / Read my Reb Report Blog: click here.

That sounds good I hope I will kike it

Then you should try it if you have opportunity for free(friend, etc. )

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Blade: TSP standard BH: Butterfly feint long III OX black FH: Milkyway Neptune OX red. Style: chopper.

I have never seen anyone with this rubber to be honest. Joola is not a highly popular rubber brand here. Some have Express 1 or 2, Tango and Energy, but that's about it. Anyway, I liked T64, but not so much T05. Hexer+ is more my style. I am interested in Hexer HD though!

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I'm always in the dark, but the Dark sheds lights upon everything!! Beauty is only pimple deep! Beauty is in the eye of the pipholder!
S/U 1: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Andro Rasant 2.1 . BH Red Tibhar Grass Dtecs
S/U 2: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Hexer+ 2.1 . BH Red GD Talon
S/U 3: Blade: Bty Gergely . No rubbers...thinking of adding Red Dtecs and Black Rasant
Aussie Table Tennis Shop / Aussie Table Tennis Facebook Page / Equipment Review Index / Read my Reb Report Blog: click here.

Joola is not a popular brand here either, but everyone here like the x-plode Anyway, its the same(IMO) as the t64, not the t05

Unfortunatelly I have never tried hexer +... what is it like, which rubber is similar to it?

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Blade: TSP standard BH: Butterfly feint long III OX black FH: Milkyway Neptune OX red. Style: chopper.

If you want a replacement for Tackiness Chop You might want the Giant Dragon Submarine rubber. But if you want a TENERGY replacement, but slightly downgraded as you are changing from Tackiness Chop, the Galaxy Moon with a sofer sponge in 1.8 would do nicely. Moon Pro is the tackier variant of moon, which may be similar to Tackiness Chop a bit more than the non-tacky Moon.

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Funnily enough if I have to compare hexer+ it is also a little similar to T64, but a little lower throw and an ounce slower perhaps.

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I'm always in the dark, but the Dark sheds lights upon everything!! Beauty is only pimple deep! Beauty is in the eye of the pipholder!
S/U 1: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Andro Rasant 2.1 . BH Red Tibhar Grass Dtecs
S/U 2: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Hexer+ 2.1 . BH Red GD Talon
S/U 3: Blade: Bty Gergely . No rubbers...thinking of adding Red Dtecs and Black Rasant
Aussie Table Tennis Shop / Aussie Table Tennis Facebook Page / Equipment Review Index / Read my Reb Report Blog: click here.

I'd like to move towards the tensors because the tacki c is a really good defensive rubber, I need much more potencial in my game, and the tacki c only can chop and slow topspin

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Blade: TSP standard BH: Butterfly feint long III OX black FH: Milkyway Neptune OX red. Style: chopper.

If it's potential you want, hexer hd you will get!

But seriously, nice rubber.

Acuda S1 Turbo is also good, but is REALLY heavy!

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Blade: American Hinoki 1-ply NWC 69 grams - Stiga Tube Carbo
FH: Juic 999 Turbo MAX - Andro Hexer HD 1.7
BH: Butterfly Spin Art 2.1 - Donic Acuda S1 Turbo 1.8

havn`t tried the joola rubber but coming from tackiness c to a tenergy 05fx 1.7(blade defplay senso) i can make more backspin with less effort and the ball stays lower,topspin is much more spinny and penetrating,the tenergy is the best high throw rubber i have seen that pushes flat.

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Tsp Black Balsa 3.0 Tenergy 05 1.9 388d ox black

So you didnt notice any differences in spin between a t05 max and 1,8? Is the spin the same?(I dont know anything about the sponge certain function)

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Blade: TSP standard BH: Butterfly feint long III OX black FH: Milkyway Neptune OX red. Style: chopper.

The thicker the sponge the faster that particular rubber will be generally. Different designed sponges will act differently, but for the same sponge that only varies in thickness it should hold true. The less thickness there is in a sponge, while speed is reduced, control is increased. Different topsheets (softer, harder, thicker, thinner) will allow the sponge to come into function under different conditions. Generally the thicker the sponge, the more spin can be imparted when it kicks in also due to the ball being "held" for a fraction longer before it is repelled. A thinner sponge is more prone to "bottom out", which means the ball compresses the sponge so far that the blade and topsheet are virtually in contact. On a spinny loop when this happens, the spin is virtually eradicated, which is not a good thing obviously. A thicker sponge prevents this or makes it less likely to occur. That is the basic function of the sponge.

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I'm always in the dark, but the Dark sheds lights upon everything!! Beauty is only pimple deep! Beauty is in the eye of the pipholder!
S/U 1: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Andro Rasant 2.1 . BH Red Tibhar Grass Dtecs
S/U 2: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Hexer+ 2.1 . BH Red GD Talon
S/U 3: Blade: Bty Gergely . No rubbers...thinking of adding Red Dtecs and Black Rasant
Aussie Table Tennis Shop / Aussie Table Tennis Facebook Page / Equipment Review Index / Read my Reb Report Blog: click here.

Thanks for answering I'm looking forward to try, then I can compare the spin on the 1,8+def blade with the spin on the max+all blade.

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Blade: TSP standard BH: Butterfly feint long III OX black FH: Milkyway Neptune OX red. Style: chopper.