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How thick is Max, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3... 2.5 other? Is there a rule on a companies max, I know that a 4 mm total including sponge is whats required

I have always thought that max was at around 2.1 but Iv'e noticed elsewhere that others say max is 2.3, is there some info on this , are all European rubbers 2.3 for their max?

Japanese max Butterfly , Yasaka tend to goes up to 2.1
Chinese seems to be 2.2
So what is European max? Is it really 2.3? or is for example Stiga's max different from Donic's (trying to think of different factories)
I've read that max can be 2.5

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SPEED-The ability to easily create faster ball speed based on a rubber's power created by the sponge rebound force and top sheet hardness. Higher speed rubbers also called faster since they produce faster shots. Speed differences between rubbers are greater with 2.5 or 2.0mm s[i]ponges. Attacking Players usually prefer the fastest rubbers while defensive players may prefer slower rubbers.
SPIN- The ability to create stronger spin is determined mainly by the composition and quality of the table tennis rubber top sheet.
POWER FACTOR-The sum of spin and speed ratings. Powerful rubbers combine high speed with strong topspin to create maximum attacking power.
TABLE TENNIS RUBBER THICKNESS:
2.5mm- The maximum thickness allowed under the rules. The term 2.5 is often used in a general way to express the maximum thickness of sponge allowed for a rubber sheet to maintain a total rubber/sponge thickness that is within the total allowed under the rules. Depending on the particular rubber sheet the actual maximum thickness of sponge will probably be something more like 2.15mm or 2.3mm.
2.0mm-This is the most popular thickness. 2.0mm combines offensive power with more control than 2.5mm. 2.0mm is also preferred by some spinning or attacking players who use light, medium fast "quick attack" blades, particularly for close-to-the table attacking.
1.0, 1.5mm- Thinner sponge rubbers provide maximum control and "touch" for players emphasizing steady all-around play or a defensive style. 1.5mm is sometimes used by quick hitting or blocking players.
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I copied this from Robins Table Tennis (naughty :| ) I would say that max, 2.1 and Chinese 2.2 are way way more popular here than 2.00 mm rubbers

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"Max" depends on the thickness of the top sheet. If you have a thin top sheet, say 1.2mm, then "max" would be 2.8mm - to make up a 4mm thick sheet. If the top sheet is thicker, then the "max" sponge is thinner.

Be careful boosting max sponges since the boosting effect may "boost" the overall thickness of the sheet above 4mm.

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I did find an older post and some say that the max's went to 2.6?
http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2102

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"Max" depends on the thickness of the top sheet. If you have a thin top sheet, say 1.2mm, then "max" would be 2.8mm - to make up a 4mm thick sheet. If the top sheet is thicker, then the "max" sponge is thinner.

Be careful boosting max sponges since the boosting effect may "boost" the overall thickness of the sheet above 4mm.


yes most table tennis players know that sponge + top-sheet + glues must only go up to the 4mm total, but I'm what asking is (for example what If I wanted a thin top-sheet) so that I could get the maximum sponge, so how do you/me know who's max is more maxier than some other companies, In fact I don't even know how anyone knows that some max's go to 2.6 and others to 2.1

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You won't know, as they don't tell you. All you know is that max means the total (topsheet + sponge) is around 4mm.

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haggisv wrote:
You won't know, as they don't tell you. All you know is that max means the total (topsheet + sponge) is around 4mm.

hahaha that's what I thought, I just wonder how some people know

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To get us really confused, Nittaku (at least in the Hammond series I use) have "thick" and "super-thick." I think that equates to 1.9 and 2.1 respectively.

 

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And to confuse us even further, Armstrong give you the total thickness instead of the sponge thickness :o :o :o

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Thanks for this post. It keeps me confused :lol: . I thought maximum thickness is 2.2 mm..

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Tibhar Makks' sponge is 2.5mm thick from what I read..
That's really the max sponge thickness according to ITTF rule as said above by Sir Rodderz..

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haggisv wrote:
You won't know, as they don't tell you. All you know is that max means the total (topsheet + sponge) is around 4mm.

hahaha that's what I thought, I just wonder how some people know


I'd say they know because it says sponge thickness on the packaging they buy :P But that's just a guess! :lol:

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RebornTTEvnglist wrote:
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haggisv wrote:
You won't know, as they don't tell you. All you know is that max means the total (topsheet + sponge) is around 4mm.

hahaha that's what I thought, I just wonder how some people know


I'd say they know because it says sponge thickness on the packaging they buy :P But that's just a guess! :lol:

max is the word

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My understanding is that rubbers with
1.9/2.1/Max would be 2.3
1.8/2.0/Max would be 2.2 or if there is a 2.2 option too, then max is 2.4
I heard highest for max is 2.5
Some rubbers don't have a max but the highest number is the max - ie Hexer+ highest is 2.2 and H3 is 2.15/2.20

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My understanding is that rubbers with
1.9/2.1/Max would be 2.3
1.8/2.0/Max would be 2.2 or if there is a 2.2 option too, then max is 2.4
I heard highest for max is 2.5
Some rubbers don't have a max but the highest number is the max - ie Hexer+ highest is 2.2 and H3 is 2.15/2.20

There is a lot of logic in that :up: .... which probably means the manufacturers won't abide by that :( :lol: :lol: :lol:

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