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Sponges of that thickness will bottom out real quick, especially if the sponge is soft...

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I used 729 in 1.5mm on FH and BH for many years and it worked well as a hitting and looping rubber, I was quite satisfied with it!

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First things first, but not neccessarily in that order.

For firm sponges it should be fine. For soft sponge, bottoming out means you'll be hitting the wood, which for looping means loss of spin and control. For hitting or blocking it might not be such a bad thing, as the ball may not actually grip as much...

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Inspirit comes in 1.5, and I suspect Saviga may do as well although I haven't seen it myself.

I have bought a rubber for my wife and she loves it: a Tibhar Super Defense 40 in 0.5mm.
She doesn't play defense but stay close to the table. It is a funny rubber, giving a lot of spin with great control. It is also possible to attack with it.
Also interesting, it is available in 0.9mm and other thickness.

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You could try the Tango Defensive 1.2mm rubber. I use it on both sides of my doubles bat, and find it quite easy to play attack and defence with. Quite spinny regardless of the thin sponge. It's pretty versatile stuff really.

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Does it bottom out on hard blocks or flat hits Greg?

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I'm using Tango 1.5 (to try some away from the table chopping) and, yes it does bottom out when counter looping and hiting. But I think after a bit of training with it, you'd seemlessly adjust your stroke.

Chen Weixing has gone the other way- an ultra slow blade and hardish inverted rubber in max, so that he can both chop and attack with it. I imagine using soft, thin sponged inverted on a faster blade gives more spin on the slow balls, while Chen's system gives him more spin/control when high speed counter looping the world's best loopers.

Any comments on this theory?

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If you mean can I feel the ball sort of hitting the wood - then yes it does. Mind you, I don't mind that feeling myself, and as a spin looper rather than a speed looper, it doesn't affect me really. I actually find using a thick sponge with speed glue almost strange these days because I can't actually get the feel of the ball hitting the blade - I don't 'feel' the contact very well at all.

Guess I've just got used to that 'bottoming out' sensation over the last few years, and now I kind of expect it. Go figure.

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Hmm... well thats what I use in 2.0mm not for defense though. I'm playing Curl Combi at present which is built for a much more defensive game and was thinking about dropping to 1.5mm Geospin to adjust. Basically Curl Combi is very strong at chopping - forehand chop you can put spin on, backhand is 'frictionless', mix that with an inverted chops and twiddles and its interesting to say the least. However Curl Combi is much more difficult to attack with than say 955 or Frustration - much more difficult.

Anyway I doubt that Geospin will 'bottom out' at 42 degrees. With a rubber like this you can really rip the spin on but trying to chop a spinning ball ..... Basically if someone refuses to spin the ball (e.g. targeting your pips) they're in for a shock against Geospin because all of a sudden a torrent of spin descends on them and then you've the reverse spin follow up. However, if you're trying to control a heavy topspin ball by chopping or worse still floating it back .... DTop's advice might be useful IMO. I'm not a chopper though.

DTops advice is to go for a non-tacky rubber with a thin sponge, we understand Greg uses TBS blade though.

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My Geospin T 2.0 feels more like 50 degrees than 42 (ie like Mark V /Sriver EL). It's the hardest rubber I've ever had by a long, long way. I've tried using copious amounts of speed glue and it still plays like a tacky brick.

Gota love that Chinese quality control.

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