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PostPosted: 17 Mar 2016, 18:59 
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tackiest- dhs hurricane 2

softest - gambler aces

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PostPosted: 17 Mar 2016, 19:57 
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BeGo asked: Dear Glen, I am curious, what other rubber you have tried.

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The tacky rubbers that I have tried are:

Nittaku Moristo DF, Stiga Chop & Drive, Globe 999, Hallmark Greenpower, Friendship SST Cross, Dawei Super Power 2008, Butterfly Tackifire, Geospin Tacky

The Butterfly Tackiness Chop was the only rubber that could pick up a ball for more than 1 second! Tackiness Chop picked up the ball for at least 10 seconds every time.

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Well, I ask cause,

I have bought a lot of tack chop,

None as tacky as you have described. None

You really lucky, or

may climate got a hand to it (Bogor is super humid and quite hot) :)

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PostPosted: 17 Mar 2016, 20:08 
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glennholder wrote:
BeGo asked: Dear Glen, I am curious, what other rubber you have tried.

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The tacky rubbers that I have tried are:

Nittaku Moristo DF, Stiga Chop & Drive, Globe 999, Hallmark Greenpower, Friendship SST Cross, Dawei Super Power 2008, Butterfly Tackifire, Geospin Tacky

The Butterfly Tackiness Chop was the only rubber that could pick up a ball for more than 1 second! Tackiness Chop picked up the ball for at least 10 seconds every time.

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With my rubber, you could pick it up the ball, wave the bat around and the ball still wouldn't come off.... :lol:

Softest I ever used was Yasaka ZAP with the 33 degree sponge. Getting it on the blade with no creases, though.. that was a major pain.

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PostPosted: 19 Mar 2016, 09:37 
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Many rubbers are so tacky they are unplayable immediately after removing the protective plastic. It seems that there is some adhesive that needs to wear off. Wipe well and use for a while to break them in.

Tackiest after initial break in was a sheet of Milky Way Earth. I once bounced a ball on the floor and by accident I caught it under my bat. It surprised me greatly, but I tried to repeat the catch, and succeeded. Haven't done that with any other rubber, not even immediately after removing the foil. Strangely, the Earth was still very much playable even with this tackiness. Earth is not listed as "extremely tacky" anywhere I have seen, so mine may have been "off".

The tackiness gradually fades. The most consistently tacky over time has been the Hurricane 3.

Tackiness is reduced by high humidity and low temperature. The most consistently tacky when it is cold, and also in warm and wet conditions, has been the "three nine" 999.

I believe the softest sponge I used was on the Tackiness D I used to play with. If my memory serves me right, the Tackiness D was a bit softer than the KTL pro rubbers I prefer now.


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I'm quite convinced that the tackiness is the result of adhesive applied to the topsheet of the rubber by way of what we think of as a "protective sheet", and is not the result of chemicals added to, or the composition of, the topsheet. There's probably two or three types of adhesive available and it can be applied to varying degrees. There are even rubbers that come in "tacky" and "non-tacky" varieties (Sanwei A+ comes to mind). As you note, the tackiness eventually goes away, that reinforces my view.

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PostPosted: 28 Mar 2016, 21:35 
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tackiest: DHS skyline 2 neo (was so sticky i could put it against the dressing room door, get changed, come back and it was still hanging there :P . I almost dislocated my shoulder, but the spin (with celluloid) was unbelievable, my trainingpartner missed them all)

softest: Mark V GPS (but that was a long time ago)

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I am pleased to say that my quest for the tackiest inverted rubber I can find is over. :)

Gambler Wrath by a fairly substantial margin.

Previously the tackiest topsheet I had ever tried I believe was H3. But with quality control issues with DHS, (ex: rubbers bubbling from sponge), I've come to love, for their grip, and hate DHS rubbers. I've owned 3 of them and they've all bubbled on me. So I said never again.

I then moved to 999 which kept me happy for about a year or so but on a whim I recently picked up Gambler Wrath. Wow. It picked a ball off the table and held it for at least a minute and a half. My arm was getting tired so without small shakes, who knows how long it could have gone?

The sponge is a pinch softer than most Chinese rubbers also. Still firm enough for power though. But on the topic of pure tackiness? I've never seen anything else like it.

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That I've tested - Hurricane 3.

That I've played with LKT Black Power.


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My H3s can be really tacky sometimes, and not at all other times (depends on how clean they are).
My 2 year old Yinhe 9000 is still fairly tacky, though.
Softest sponge is my BTY Super Anti! :D :lol:
AS far as normal inverted goes, I'd say the Focus 3 Snipe is the softest I've tried (haven't tried all that many, though).

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PostPosted: 17 Sep 2016, 16:13 
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Geospin tacky black,stickier than flypaper

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PostPosted: 17 Sep 2016, 17:51 
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... when new. (Geospin Tacky that is). Mine dates back to 2011 and is no longer, though it is still veeery slow.

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PostPosted: 26 Dec 2021, 10:39 
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I believe the question should be which top sheet lasts the longest.

Countless combinations have tacky sheets at the start but quickly get washed away after a month.

Making it dam hard to adapt to flypaper at the start but rock sponges at the end.

I agree with geo spin tacky. I used it for quite a bit as my backhand serve extreme simple winner. I bought a sheet of 'contact' stuff for covering text books at school to cover it up.

I wonder if water from the tap has impurities that eat at the topsheet.

I also love hurricanes but they too are quickly degraded by water washing.

The dust from hitting the ball needs to be removed but tap water seems to not be the answer. I wonder if wiping it off with vegetable oil might be the solution. Since the oil in our fingers makes the place where they touch last the longest.

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Time to post this again.. :lol: :lol: :lol:



What did it play like? Well, to be honest, I couldn't tell much difference.. For softer shots like short pushes you had to push a little bit harder.

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PostPosted: 27 Dec 2021, 17:58 
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My geospin tacky red was non-tacky. Geospin Grand Master red was slightly tacky, rock hard sponge, fairly dead.

729 SP was ultra tacky.

Hurricane 8 was very tacky for a few days. After a few weeks it was non-tacky.


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Tackiest I personally have ever used was the 729 SP, closely followed by the Battle II. Gone off tacky rubbers a bit since then - may possibly go back to them at some point, but currently still loving my non-tacky topsheets as a pleasant change.

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