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 Post subject: New Backhand rubber
PostPosted: 05 Oct 2017, 08:27 
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Hello there guys, I'm currently using fang bo b2, and while I've stayed with tg3 neo dhs on fh for all this while, i still haven't found a rubber quite right for the bh. while h3 neo soft compliments my game, it lacks power at certain shots especially off the table

so now i wanna upgrade and thinking between rozena and rasanter (42. 47)

just need some opinions on u guys who've tried it. and which one u prefer and why

i loop on bh alot and passive blocks when im in an awkward position only. i prefer fh shots but im stronger on bh on good positions ( still perfecting that hip energy transfer with my skyline tg3 neo , best fh rubber evarrrrr)


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 Post subject: Re: New Backhand rubber
PostPosted: 05 Oct 2017, 10:37 
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Is this the older Skyline TG3 Neo ? or did you mean the Skyline TG3-60 ?

Why not try out the newer Skyline TG3-60 ( Mid-Hard or Soft version) ? You might like it :-)

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 Post subject: Re: New Backhand rubber
PostPosted: 05 Oct 2017, 12:26 
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3-60 would be my first thought as well, given your liking for TG3. Currently, I have H3 FH and TG 3-60 BH on my FB 2.

Alternately, you might consider Gold Arc 8 if you're leaning to a tensor. It has a slightly harder/faster feel than most tensors I've tried (by no means an exhaustive list), which may fit your setup, and help your quest for a little more power/speed on the BH. Having said that, you might want to hear from someone who has used the other rubbers you are considering.

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kim biceps wrote:
Hello there guys, I'm currently using fang bo b2, and while I've stayed with tg3 neo dhs on fh for all this while, i still haven't found a rubber quite right for the bh. while h3 neo soft compliments my game, it lacks power at certain shots especially off the table

so now i wanna upgrade and thinking between rozena and rasanter (42. 47)

just need some opinions on u guys who've tried it. and which one u prefer and why

i loop on bh alot and passive blocks when im in an awkward position only. i prefer fh shots but im stronger on bh on good positions ( still perfecting that hip energy transfer with my skyline tg3 neo , best fh rubber evarrrrr)
I use Long V which is similar to FB2. I have played H3 soft on my BH. I am a penholder and I can still play RPB up to mid distance without problems. H3 soft is a great BH rubber. I don't find it lacking power at all. If yoi use SH your BH should have enough power.

Anyway, alternatives:
H3 - 50 mid hard
H3 provincial 38 degree

The reason why I recommend tacky rubbers on BH is that, FB2, Long V and the latest DHS 301 all use inner ALC. These blades can produce mid-low arc which compensates for high arc of hurricane rubbers. Once your BH gains enough power through training, tacky rubber gives you enough grip to counter loop off the table. And of course, short game is always superior with tacky rubber.

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 Post subject: Re: New Backhand rubber
PostPosted: 06 Oct 2017, 16:07 
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darucla wrote:
3-60 would be my first thought as well, given your liking for TG3. Currently, I have H3 FH and TG 3-60 BH on my FB 2.

Alternately, you might consider Gold Arc 8 if you're leaning to a tensor. It has a slightly harder/faster feel than most tensors I've tried (by no means an exhaustive list), which may fit your setup, and help your quest for a little more power/speed on the BH. Having said that, you might want to hear from someone who has used the other rubbers you are considering.


How does the gold arc 8 plays like what rubber its most similar too? Tg3 60 on bh definitely am interested is it the soft version and how does it play boosted compared to h3 sofa


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 Post subject: Re: New Backhand rubber
PostPosted: 06 Oct 2017, 16:09 
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man_iii wrote:
Is this the older Skyline TG3 Neo ? or did you mean the Skyline TG3-60 ?

Why not try out the newer Skyline TG3-60 ( Mid-Hard or Soft version) ? You might like it :-)


Yes the tg3 neo normal, how does tg3 60 differ from the neo? And do u booswit?


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 Post subject: Re: New Backhand rubber
PostPosted: 06 Oct 2017, 16:13 
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kim biceps wrote:
Hello there guys, I'm currently using fang bo b2, and while I've stayed with tg3 neo dhs on fh for all this while, i still haven't found a rubber quite right for the bh. while h3 neo soft compliments my game, it lacks power at certain shots especially off the table

so now i wanna upgrade and thinking between rozena and rasanter (42. 47)

just need some opinions on u guys who've tried it. and which one u prefer and why

i loop on bh alot and passive blocks when im in an awkward position only. i prefer fh shots but im stronger on bh on good positions ( still perfecting that hip energy transfer with my skyline tg3 neo , best fh rubber evarrrrr)
I use Long V which is similar to FB2. I have played H3 soft on my BH. I am a penholder and I can still play RPB up to mid distance without problems. H3 soft is a great BH rubber. I don't find it lacking power at all. If yoi use SH your BH should have enough power.

Anyway, alternatives:
H3 - 50 mid hard
H3 provincial 38 degree

The reason why I recommend tacky rubbers on BH is that, FB2, Long V and the latest DHS 301 all use inner ALC. These blades can produce mid-low arc which compensates for high arc of hurricane rubbers. Once your BH gains enough power through training, tacky rubber gives you enough grip to counter loop off the table. And of course, short game is always superior with tacky rubber.

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Noted, yes h3 soft had been my go to for a while, after using els for a bit ive felt h3 soft suits the best, this debate started when I'm against better opponents with good long rallies i held on my own but maybe when we went off away from the table which is often enough, the power kinda lacking as the rally goes by and killinh shot from there on bh especially is quite noticeable, one of higher league player tested my blade and indeed advice the same thing ( he uses h3 too and told me his h3 is boosted crazily that he can only use it a month, i use flt im not sure what he uses)


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 Post subject: Re: New Backhand rubber
PostPosted: 06 Oct 2017, 20:01 
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kim biceps wrote:
SFF_liberte wrote:
kim biceps wrote:
Hello there guys, I'm currently using fang bo b2, and while I've stayed with tg3 neo dhs on fh for all this while, i still haven't found a rubber quite right for the bh. while h3 neo soft compliments my game, it lacks power at certain shots especially off the table

so now i wanna upgrade and thinking between rozena and rasanter (42. 47)

just need some opinions on u guys who've tried it. and which one u prefer and why

i loop on bh alot and passive blocks when im in an awkward position only. i prefer fh shots but im stronger on bh on good positions ( still perfecting that hip energy transfer with my skyline tg3 neo , best fh rubber evarrrrr)
I use Long V which is similar to FB2. I have played H3 soft on my BH. I am a penholder and I can still play RPB up to mid distance without problems. H3 soft is a great BH rubber. I don't find it lacking power at all. If yoi use SH your BH should have enough power.

Anyway, alternatives:
H3 - 50 mid hard
H3 provincial 38 degree

The reason why I recommend tacky rubbers on BH is that, FB2, Long V and the latest DHS 301 all use inner ALC. These blades can produce mid-low arc which compensates for high arc of hurricane rubbers. Once your BH gains enough power through training, tacky rubber gives you enough grip to counter loop off the table. And of course, short game is always superior with tacky rubber.

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Noted, yes h3 soft had been my go to for a while, after using els for a bit ive felt h3 soft suits the best, this debate started when I'm against better opponents with good long rallies i held on my own but maybe when we went off away from the table which is often enough, the power kinda lacking as the rally goes by and killinh shot from there on bh especially is quite noticeable, one of higher league player tested my blade and indeed advice the same thing ( he uses h3 too and told me his h3 is boosted crazily that he can only use it a month, i use flt im not sure what he uses)
My H3 national BS was boosted with 4 layers of Seamoon. After a year it's still rocking (1-2 plays a week ). So if you boost a H3 provincial OS 38degree it will last you at least 52 sessions.

I have used both. H3 provincial 37 is faster than H3-50 at 37 degree. So 38 with booster will def give you the punch.

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 Post subject: Re: New Backhand rubber
PostPosted: 06 Oct 2017, 22:20 
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mind ging falco long tempo and seamoon a quick comparison?

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 Post subject: Re: New Backhand rubber
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kim biceps wrote:

How does the gold arc 8 plays like what rubber its most similar too? Tg3 60 on bh definitely am interested is it the soft version and how does it play boosted compared to h3 sofa


I have limited experience with GA 8 (I have the 50 degree version in black, the 47.5 may be better for BH), as I was injured shortly after getting it, and more recently have become more interested in non-tensors for the BH. That being said, I would say it would be like the harder versions of Xiom Omega, rather than the Europe versions. On my main bat, I have MX-P on the BH, and have kept that as is for most of a year. I would see no reason to change for change's sake (also, wrong colour!), but I would happily use GA 8 as a replacement for a worn out MX-P; which is not to say that they are the same, but I could adjust very quickly. It does pretty much what they do: good spin, medium-low arc (depending on blade), nice satisfying feel of power when you hit hard.

However, I am happy currently with the softer DHS rubbers on BH, and will move more in that direction in future. I have not boosted Skyline TG 3-60, which feels plenty soft enough for me (37 degrees iirc); has a lot of grip as it comes. Tending to prefer H3-50 (also 37), but not by a large margin. Playing far from the table on BH with these is not my/their forte, but if I'm in that situation, I'm probably losing the point anyway. Using on DHS inner ALC blades. There is a full review of the Hurricanes on the TT11 blog, which talks about 3-50, as well as other options.

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 Post subject: Re: New Backhand rubber
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darucla wrote:
kim biceps wrote:

How does the gold arc 8 plays like what rubber its most similar too? Tg3 60 on bh definitely am interested is it the soft version and how does it play boosted compared to h3 sofa


I have limited experience with GA 8 (I have the 50 degree version in black, the 47.5 may be better for BH), as I was injured shortly after getting it, and more recently have become more interested in non-tensors for the BH. That being said, I would say it would be like the harder versions of Xiom Omega, rather than the Europe versions. On my main bat, I have MX-P on the BH, and have kept that as is for most of a year. I would see no reason to change for change's sake (also, wrong colour!), but I would happily use GA 8 as a replacement for a worn out MX-P; which is not to say that they are the same, but I could adjust very quickly. It does pretty much what they do: good spin, medium-low arc (depending on blade), nice satisfying feel of power when you hit hard.

However, I am happy currently with the softer DHS rubbers on BH, and will move more in that direction in future. I have not boosted Skyline TG 3-60, which feels plenty soft enough for me (37 degrees iirc); has a lot of grip as it comes. Tending to prefer H3-50 (also 37), but not by a large margin. Playing far from the table on BH with these is not my/their forte, but if I'm in that situation, I'm probably losing the point anyway. Using on DHS inner ALC blades. There is a full review of the Hurricanes on the TT11 blog, which talks about 3-50, as well as other options.


How does TG 3-60 compared to tg3 neo and h3 neo ? i like tg3 neo caus etheres lotsa dwell on it and the bigger ur swing is the more effective it gets rather than overshoots like most rubber.

anyways i get the rozena on bh now will give it a try on some days from now


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I just changed my backhand rubber from Rozena To Andro Shifter advised by my coach and trust me the feeling and control is over the top on my second blade TREIBER H. Also did anyone notice only they (Andro) have two mounting options of placing your rubber between 0 - 90 degrees?
How cool is that.

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Rozena is pretty super consistent especially on small movement strokes, i had adjusted and vs t64 less spin less power maybe, but the safety is definitely higher.

Better than h3 soft in terms of safety and consistent on small strokes. But h3 have more power to unleash on bigger strokes and i definitely miss some wondrous brushes on h3 soft that result in the opponents going awe struck by the hit.

Rozena makes me win more though. And maybe I'll ultimately go back to h3 soft or even t64 one day I'm not sure on that, for now rozena sticks


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