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| Author: | DLAWIII [ 30 Dec 2016, 03:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes only? |
Hi everyone! I've been a lurker here for awhile but I thought I'd post today because I'm in a bit of a conundrum... Because of a shoulder issue I've adopted a very modified Seemiller grip and hit forehand and backhand from the same side of the rubber. I use the DHS Hurricane 8 hard version and like it very much for a close-to-the-table game. The H8 isn't super heavy but I'm realizing I could find something lighter and even tackier for the off side since it would only be used for some serves and forehand pushes and other little touch shots. Do you know of a light rubber that is very, very tacky that would be great for short, spinny serves and has tremendous touch and control? Should I also consider a very thin sponge for this off side of the blade since it will only be used for serves and short forehand pushes? |
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| Author: | LordCope [ 30 Dec 2016, 03:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
Triple spin chop is light and very very spinny. I like it a lot. Doesn't feel foreign to me as a seasoned user of tacky Chinese rubbers. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | DLAWIII [ 14 Jan 2017, 04:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
Thanks for the recommendation here. My modified grip solved the shoulder issue but ended up causing (not surprisingly) some hand and finger issues. |
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| Author: | ilikepie [ 14 Jan 2017, 12:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
RITC SST Cross and RITC 729FX blue sponge are both very tacky and spinney, however they are hard and heavy. But you can find them in 1.5mm thickness which reduces weight, but I don't know if you would want the feeling of a hard rubber versus the feeling of a soft rubber. Gambler Reflectoid is very soft but it is not as tacky as the SST Cross and the 729FX. Globe 999 is very spinney and tacky, and although you can buy it with traditional hard sponge, you can also buy topsheets which you can put on softer sponges. The JUIC 999 also comes factory made with a softer sponge- Check Paddle Palace for this rubber. |
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| Author: | iskandar taib [ 19 Jan 2017, 03:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
Kokutaku 868 (in the pink or gold 2-pack) and RITC 729 Sky Wing (or Sky King  ) are both fairly lightweight, having 2.0 sponge (though 868 claims it's 2.2mm). Another light rubber is KTL Super XP (or it might be XT - can't remember which is the tacky one). It comes with a variety of sponges and sponge thickness, the Green Dragon variety is VERY light (or at least, the sheet I got was pretty light). Quite slow, though, even the Green Dragon was slow. Iskandar |
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| Author: | ChasFox [ 06 Mar 2017, 03:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
iskandar taib wrote: Kokutaku 868 (in the pink or gold 2-pack) and RITC 729 Sky Wing (or Sky King ) are both fairly lightweight, having 2.0 sponge (though 868 claims it's 2.2mm). Another light rubber is KTL Super XP (or it might be XT - can't remember which is the tacky one). It comes with a variety of sponges and sponge thickness, the Green Dragon variety is VERY light (or at least, the sheet I got was pretty light). Quite slow, though, even the Green Dragon was slow. Iskandar A local player uses 868 in 1.0mm on a wood blade for league matches where he mainly just pushes and chops over the table very effectively. Downside is the very thin but tacky rubber makes topspin drives harder to keep on the table as it bottoms out to easily unless brush looped very finely. |
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| Author: | iskandar taib [ 06 Mar 2017, 12:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
The 868 topsheet comes with a huge variety of different sponges (or I'll assume it's differences in sponge rather than just packaging), as you can see here: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/ ... 95549.html This is the one I was writing about: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 79950.html which is only available in "2.2mm" sponge (it turns out it's really 2.0mm). Don't know which of the other ones is available in thin sponge - maybe "Tokyo", or "Party People", or "Pyramids", or "Music of the Spheres"... So why does "Tokyo" come with a photo of the .. what is it.. the Grand Canyon??  Iskandar |
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| Author: | haggisv [ 06 Mar 2017, 19:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
LordCope wrote: Triple spin chop is light and very very spinny. I like it a lot. Doesn't feel foreign to me as a seasoned user of tacky Chinese rubbers. Yes, that was my first thought. It's very tacky with a soft & light sponge, and will be very light with a 1.0mm sponge (not many rubbers come with a 1.0mm sponge). |
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| Author: | Japsican [ 11 Mar 2017, 04:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
+1 For TSP Triple Spin Chop. Only things is, modified seemiller makes use of block quite a bit and it will bottom out against heavy loops, causing your block to go in to the net. But...you said Pushes and Serves only....which this is amazing for. |
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| Author: | BeGo [ 11 Mar 2017, 09:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
For super tacky setting, Infuse H3 or Geospin Tacky in boiled water, until the sponge detached, and Replace the sponge with BLutenkirsche Japan, in any Thickness. Remember that thicker is spinnier but slower. Sent from my i5E using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Robot Blocker [ 21 Aug 2017, 18:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
iskandar taib wrote: The 868 topsheet comes with a huge variety of different sponges (or I'll assume it's differences in sponge rather than just packaging), as you can see here: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/ ... 95549.html This is the one I was writing about: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 79950.html which is only available in "2.2mm" sponge (it turns out it's really 2.0mm). Don't know which of the other ones is available in thin sponge - maybe "Tokyo", or "Party People", or "Pyramids", or "Music of the Spheres"... So why does "Tokyo" come with a photo of the .. what is it.. the Grand Canyon?? Iskandar Hi Isk, Is that the one with the pink "tension" sponge? I think it is and it is a lovely rubber, lighter than normal and with great control and of course super tacky!! 
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| Author: | iskandar taib [ 21 Aug 2017, 21:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
There seem to be three with Tension Sponge: Super Tacky: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 02843.html  Non-tacky: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 62513.html  Party People: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 04220.html  I haven't tried any of these so I don't know the color of the sponge. Might be any (or all) of them! I might someday buy all three just to compare. Those do seem to be the ones in vacuum packs. Maybe that means they're factory tuned. I'll have to write you an update about what's going on at Social Doubles sometime.. in short Rohan's abandoned the expensive bat with the long pips (says he's waiting for you to come back and show him how to use it properly) and Hock Soon started using it instead. And they keep needling each other over it - Hock Soon offered to buy it off Rohan for RM100, Rohan says he'll sell it for USD100. It's been quite educational for everyone in terms of dealing with spin reversal, though not everyone's figured out what's going on yet. Iskandar |
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| Author: | Robot Blocker [ 22 Aug 2017, 20:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
iskandar taib wrote: There seem to be three with Tension Sponge: Super Tacky: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 02843.html Non-tacky: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 62513.html Party People: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 04220.html I haven't tried any of these so I don't know the color of the sponge. Might be any (or all) of them! I might someday buy all three just to compare. Those do seem to be the ones in vacuum packs. Maybe that means they're factory tuned. I'll have to write you an update about what's going on at Social Doubles sometime.. in short Rohan's abandoned the expensive bat with the long pips (says he's waiting for you to come back and show him how to use it properly) and Hock Soon started using it instead. And they keep needling each other over it - Hock Soon offered to buy it off Rohan for RM100, Rohan says he'll sell it for USD100. It's been quite educational for everyone in terms of dealing with spin reversal, though not everyone's figured out what's going on yet. Iskandar Hi, well the red one is spinny but heavy as f---, the tuning made it too fast for me at the time!! It may well be the orange/yellow packet i am referring to because i think i have that packet somewhere in my collection, cos it said was Super Tacky!!! However, of the others with the Black outer on a picture, i think i bought the "Colarado Canyon" and as you so succinctly refer to and "a harbour view"868 Tokyo, to try, and 1 had ( Chinese inscription = No?! 60) No 60 on it and the other No!? 35 on the front which i'm guessing refers to sponge hardness? The 60 is ok, a bit on the heavy side as most Koku's are, was $9.50$, i used it a lot last year!!! the No 35 COLARADO CANYON however was a revelation, $5.90 it had Pink sponge with Tension stamped onto it, and was lightish and was really spinny and with great control, i tried and liked, my partner / teamy then tried and i couldn't get it back off him and his spin / loops were amazing!!!! I'll re-check details when i get home!!!! PM to follow re RO!!!!! |
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| Author: | Lightzy [ 16 Oct 2017, 06:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
Hurricane 3 is very light |
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| Author: | man_iii [ 18 Oct 2017, 22:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tacky and light rubber for serves and forehand pushes on |
Lightzy wrote: Hurricane 3 is very light Hope you are joking Most ppl find H3 medium-heavy or heavy side of most rubbers.
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