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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
PostPosted: 27 Jul 2017, 14:19 
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Is a tacky rubber like h3
Performance? Does it require as much effort as H3 to produce power loop?

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More power same spin higher throw

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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
PostPosted: 28 Jul 2017, 07:57 
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carmelomaf wrote:
SFF_liberte wrote:
carmelomaf wrote:
Is a tacky rubber like h3
Performance? Does it require as much effort as H3 to produce power loop?

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Right

More power same spin higher throw
Looking at some German websites it costs €35. If it performs the same as H3 provincial boosted it can be a game changer.

But we will wait and see if it can outlast H3. We all know H3 can last a looooong time.

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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
PostPosted: 28 Jul 2017, 08:45 
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I have ordered a sheet - will report back on impressions vs Tenergy 05FX once I get it and try it out


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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
PostPosted: 19 Aug 2017, 02:07 
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so... the rubber arrived. Uncut, the rubber weighs 70g (heavier than the blade I will be putting it on!), versus 60g for the Rakza 7 Soft that will go on the backhand. Both are max rubbers

Quality of both rubber surface and sponge appear very good (as I would expect). The sponge is a lot denser than for example Tenergy 05.
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JGT - the rubber has a plastic lining, and also has a rubber protection sheet, which I always appreciate.
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above - JGT weight uncut
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above - Rakza 7 soft uncut
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above - JGT sponge
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above - (for comparison) Tenergy 05 sponge

I have glued up on a Hallmark Ultra balsa blade, which I am using at the moment as my main bat with Tenergy 05FX and Rakza 7 soft. So, I am expecting the sponge hardness to feel significantly different, but am interested to see how JGT performs. Will be tested over this weekend! :D


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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
PostPosted: 19 Aug 2017, 09:23 
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The plastic sheet attached is unusual for ESN rubbers, Victas 401 does not have this. Does it clearly say, on the rubber or cover, that it's made in Germany?

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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
PostPosted: 19 Aug 2017, 09:28 
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Haggisv, have a look at the cover picture - "Made in Germany"! I will check if the rubber says it as well tonight


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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
PostPosted: 19 Aug 2017, 10:06 
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Haggisv, have a look at the cover picture - "Made in Germany"! I will check if the rubber says it as well tonight

Ah yes, you're right! :oops: :oops: :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
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so.. I have had a couple of hits with the JGT, and results are semi as I expected. Every time I play with a Chinese rubber, coming from playing with Tenergy 05 FX, it feels dead, and then after 20 minutes or so, I start to appreciate it.

Note that it is on a balsa blade, which changes how it would compare say to an all-wood blade.

Looping near the table, particularly brush looping, is very easy, nice and spinny. Serves are shorter and slightly spinnier than the Tenergy - I need to focus more when serving to keep the Tenergy serves as short. Short drops fall a lot shorter with JGT - sometimes too short, I was struggling to switch backwards and forwards between the two blades. Blocking was easy with JGT, although didn't have the rebound of Tenergy - so both good and bad.

The sponge feels definitely faster than H3 Neo. When looping, arc is very good (i.e. quite high), with very, very good spin. Speed is I would say 80% of that of Tenergy. When I am at the table, speed seems good and adequate - when 2m away, the speed difference kicks in, I am unable to loop through opponents as easily as Tenergy. With Tenergy 05FX having so much softer a sponge, I find it easier to counter-loop with Tenergy- the ball stays on the bat so much longer, I can place the ball easier (hook or fade loop).

So, an impressive rubber, but not quite as fast as I was expecting.

I am going to take it off the balsa blade, and put it on a Timo Boll ZLC - so I can compare it to Sanwei Target National, which is a rubber I was impressed with.


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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
PostPosted: 22 Aug 2017, 13:44 
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Thanks PRW, sounds like I need to try this one. :up:

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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
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Thanks PRW, sounds like I need to try this one. :up:

Yip, worth trying - it will be interesting to know what you think of it! I don't have wide experience of Chinese rubbers, so would be nice to get your views..


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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
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How tacky is it compared to H3 Neo?


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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
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How tacky is it compared to H3 Neo?
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good question: rather than guessing based on what I thought I remembered, I had a look when I got home. I did a video so you can see: clearly, the order of tackiness is:
H3 Neo > Sanwei Target National > Joola Golden Tango. I didn't realise the difference as widely when playing.


(the order of picking up the ball on the video is JGT, then H3 Neo, then STN)


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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
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If anyone wants the (basically unused) black Joola Golden Tango max, they can have it from $20 plus shipping from California, US. At the moment, it is on a really oversized blade, so would easily fit any normal sized blade. I paid $57.


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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
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PRW wrote:
If anyone wants the (basically unused) black Joola Golden Tango max, they can have it from $20 plus shipping from California, US. At the moment, it is on a really oversized blade, so would easily fit any normal sized blade. I paid $57.



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 Post subject: Re: Joola Golden Tango
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Red Roar wrote:
PRW wrote:
If anyone wants the (basically unused) black Joola Golden Tango max, they can have it from $20 plus shipping from California, US. At the moment, it is on a really oversized blade, so would easily fit any normal sized blade. I paid $57.



I'll take it

no problem, Red Roar - pm me your address, I'll get a mail price!


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