111Iceman111 wrote:
@japsican the price is the same as t05 here in croatia...
WOW!
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| Author: | Croudy [ 14 Feb 2018, 22:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
Our (german) review (with english subtitles) of the Omega VII Pro and Europe: |
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| Author: | 111Iceman111 [ 19 Feb 2018, 05:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
i heard about the rubbers that they come out, and about the price lol they need to be 30% better than tenergys to sell with that price...time will tell i guess... |
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| Author: | Japsican [ 23 Feb 2018, 02:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
111Iceman111 wrote: i heard about the rubbers that they come out, and about the price lol they need to be 30% better than tenergys to sell with that price...time will tell i guess... I like it so far. Very powerful and spinny. Decent chop. Not yet used to the speed though, I sent a lot of pushes long. Opening loops are wicked good. What prices are you seeing that you feel they need to be 30% better than tenergy? It's cheaper than tenergy by at least $20 USD wherever I look. The O7P was $55 USD for me... |
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| Author: | Dusty054 [ 23 Feb 2018, 05:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
They’ve gone a bit overboard with the text and symbols. Don’t think I’ve ever seen so much on a rubber. |
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| Author: | 111Iceman111 [ 24 Feb 2018, 00:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
@japsican the price is the same as t05 here in croatia... |
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| Author: | Japsican [ 27 Feb 2018, 23:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
111Iceman111 wrote: @japsican the price is the same as t05 here in croatia... WOW!
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| Author: | AndySmith [ 28 Feb 2018, 01:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
Yeah, O7P is a fabulous rubber but the price is worrying me. I'm hoping that some of the more discounty (that's definitely a word) suppliers pick it up soon. |
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| Author: | 111Iceman111 [ 22 Mar 2018, 11:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
any reviews out yet? |
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| Author: | Japsican [ 24 Mar 2018, 02:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
So far I really like it. I have the Omega VII Pro in Red. It's a light rubber, and just like all Xioms and ESN rubbers, very good quality. It is very grippy, but requires the ball to sink into the rubber. Because of that, I had trouble generating spin on serves using my Defplay. On the Viscaria, because it's stiffer and harder (by a lot) compared to the Defplay, suddenly it's less of a problem, although I think one needs a higher ball toss of you are thinly grazing only during serves. It is a soft rubber, and it's one of the "made for the plastic ball" marketed rubbers. The trend there seems to be grippy topsheets and very soft sponge to generate mechanical grip. It blocks super well, and the throw feels just right to me. Clears the net with lots of safety, and the spin is enormous. It's also not super fast...fast enough of course. I'd liken the speed to being a touch faster than xiom Omega V Asia. Is it linear? In the rally yes. In the short game, less linear but still very controlled. Not insanely as bouncy as most tensors. Warning, I found it pretty unruly on the flexy defplay. It felt a lot less linear to me. Believe it or not, I find it more controlled on the Viscaria. I have it in max, and feel like on hard shots, and flat hits, I can feel the blade. Not bottoming out so much as a good feel of it. I like it. I have it on the Viscaria opposite Tenergy 64, and I find it softer than T64 by quite a bit. It's probably about as soft as Omega IV Asia, or Vega Asia, give or take. I am contemplating whether or not to get another Omega VI Pro for the other side of my blade. Or to use it as a BH rubber and get something a little less reliant on mechanical grip for the FH. Something like H8, Baracuda or T05 for the FH. I think doing that would support my current technique and strategy better on the FH. Looking hard at the gambler bursts, as I've heard good things about them too. I have definitely settled on the idea that this is a great BH rubber for me. Don't get me wrong, it would be good for the FH too, if I had better technique for generating spin on serves without heavily impacting the ball and needing to sink it into the sponge quite as much. That's a problem with my serving technique though. |
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| Author: | haggisv [ 25 Mar 2018, 20:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
Thanks Japsican, very useful!  For anyone interested in the hardness of the Omega VII, here they are: Omega VII Tour - 55.0 Degrees Omega VII Asia - 52.5 Degrees Omega VII Pro - 47.5 Degrees Omega VII Euro - 42.5 Degrees We just got them in OOAK Shop as well, so as soon as I need to glue one, I'll make sure I weigh the sheets. I've heard from a few people that it's quite light, which is a nice change of trend, because for a while rubbers just seemed to get heavier and heavier! |
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| Author: | 111Iceman111 [ 04 Apr 2018, 08:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
since i am currently playing with pretty hard Xiom Vega China, i am very interested in the hardest Omega VII Tour... as soon someone test it or have some info about it pls post it
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| Author: | Def-attack [ 04 Apr 2018, 15:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
I tried Omega VII Pro. I normally uses V Pro, and was told that sponges were identical. I did not like VII, it felt less grippy, but faster and less controlled. And the throw felt lower. I might have gotten a bad version of it but it looked very nice and shiny. I should probably have chosen the softer version to get higher throw. But now I am very happy with a fresh Omega V Pro, fantastic rubber .
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| Author: | mac33 [ 06 May 2018, 14:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
I have a black sheet in max of the Omega V11 Europe. Spin and speed are pretty scary! It's on the new Xiom Zx3 blade which is very fast. Downside - seems pretty sensitive to incoming topspin. I seem to generate more side spin and topspin when I'm in a defensive position away from the table than any other rubber. Pace is exceptional too away from the table. Feel I'm able to come in with a counterattack easier when I'm well back from the table but that could be the blade too. Close to the table I am still not sure about it. My flat drives are nowhere near as flat and against incoming topspin feels like it's harder to control. I'm winning more points with it in defensive positions than normal but when attacking and defending close to the table I'm struggling a bit. Only being using it for a week. Not sure I can stop using it even if I start losing with it - the spin and speed are incredible. Tenergy 05 has a different feel but for speed and spin this rubber is definitely up there with the very best! |
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| Author: | ChasFox [ 06 May 2018, 17:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
Not surprised you are finding the ZX3 and VII combination a bit scary in view of how fast the blade is http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_po ... ies-blades A ZX1 or similar more forgiving blade might make close to table play a little easier with the Euro VII |
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| Author: | Silver [ 08 May 2018, 08:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Xiom Omega VII Pro & Europe |
I was playing with a sheet of o7 euro max a few weeks back and really liked the control for off the bounce counterlooping... And on the other hand was having trouble opening up with it as my loop action is still brush, and the ball just falls off the topsheet. |
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