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PostPosted: 14 Sep 2018, 08:52 
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Perhaps I should consider upgrading my Mark V too? My current set up is a Stiga Ulf Bengtsson Offensive with Mark V and Sriver. The complete bat is 30 years old so should I consider anything new?
Seriously how does the new Mark V compare the old stuff?I would guess the blade is still OK and would be interesting to try some different rubbers.Any suggestions for a close to table fast attacking,loop spin player?


From what I know, Mark V hasn't changed over the years (although now there are a bunch of variants). If you have 30 year old rubber on there, you probably would want to swap it out. Maybe one of the veteran's could comment on that better.

But from what I've gotten from this thread, there's no real reason to switch from Mark V unless you find a very specific strategy that another specific rubber is catered towards. Would everyone agree with that?


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gradge wrote:
Perhaps I should consider upgrading my Mark V too? My current set up is a Stiga Ulf Bengtsson Offensive with Mark V and Sriver. The complete bat is 30 years old so should I consider anything new?
Seriously how does the new Mark V compare the old stuff?I would guess the blade is still OK and would be interesting to try some different rubbers.Any suggestions for a close to table fast attacking,loop spin player?


From what I know, Mark V hasn't changed over the years (although now there are a bunch of variants). If you have 30 year old rubber on there, you probably would want to swap it out. Maybe one of the veteran's could comment on that better.

But from what I've gotten from this thread, there's no real reason to switch from Mark V unless you find a very specific strategy that another specific rubber is catered towards. Would everyone agree with that?


Pretty much agree. Mark V is the same as it was 50 years ago. In the 80’s some players started speed gluing it (& other classic rubbers) to boost the performance. After the ban of speed glue Yasaka developed Mark V HPS with a ‘glue effect’ sponge. It retains the same top sheet and the sponge has similar hardness to the original so it’s probably the closest you’ll get to the feel of Mark V with more ‘modern’ performance. Nowadays most offensive style players beyond intermediate level will use something of similar performance, but up to that level or for more all-round style players the original Mark V is still a very good (and very durable) do-it-all rubber.


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I agree, Mark V is still a good rubber for an all around game, new rubber is more "dynamic" at least for the tensor and tensor imitators. Basically they are more bouncy, and some generate spin and or speed easier than MV. If you don't get regular practice or coaching, they can be harder to play with. So these non linear rubbers may or may not help your game, depending on a lot of factors, including your level and skill set. Without seeing you play it is hard to guess, we have quite a few players using MV at our club. And one is now going through the same search you are, and we have given him the same advice you have received, to try other peoples paddles before ordering anything.

There are also some "mild" tensors being introduced, that aren't quite as bouncy while retaining the tensor feel of the rubber. Xiom Musa III is one. I've only hit with it briefly and that was on a defensive blade, so can't really compare it to MV, but something like this might be a compromise if you are looking form a tensor like rubber. Good luck in your search.

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Has Mark V really been around 50 years? That would be 1967 - a couple years early perhaps?? But maybe so...

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iskandar taib wrote:
Has Mark V really been around 50 years? That would be 1967 - a couple years early perhaps?? But maybe so...Iskandar


50 years would be 1968? You're right though, not quite there yet, was 1969. From a recent Yasaka catalogue:

"In 1969 Yasaka revolutionized table tennis rubber technology introducing MARK V. Winning the men’s singles titles in the 1970 European Championships and 1971 World Championships, success for MARK V was proven. Since then MARK V has been continuously developed and Yasaka MARK V is probably the most well-known table tennis product on the market".


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Oops.. yeah, 1968. Thinking a year behind! :lol: Wonder when Sriver appeared - the two appeared about the same time and were "rivals". I don't think Musa is a Tensor, last I checked there was no Tensor logo but it does have the BIOS logo.

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iskandar taib wrote:
Oops.. yeah, 1968. Thinking a year behind! :lol: Wonder when Sriver appeared - the two appeared about the same time and were "rivals". I don't think Musa is a Tensor, last I checked there was no Tensor logo but it does have the BIOS logo.

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1967 (I think) for Sriver. Musa 1 is definitely not a Tensor. Maybe none of them are, not sure.


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I have used Musa a lot and it is definitely is a classic medium to medium hard sponge rubber and not a tensor. Great contraol but for forehand attack it needs a quick blade and at least 2mm thickness

Intro which I use on one blade is sort of a speed glued Musa rather than a true tensor so probably similar to Mark V HPS. A very good low cost rubber for those seeking more speed without Tensor catapult and matches well with balsa blades.


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