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PostPosted: 02 Dec 2018, 10:17 
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Has anyone tried this rubber?

The description sounds interesting, in that it's supposedly shares characteristics with short pimples, and is designed for smashing & flat hitting. Is it just a fast rubber that's not very spinny (so not sensitive to incoming spin), a bit like Bryce & vartiants?

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The Nittaku Goriki Kaisoku is an inverted rubber that shares characteristics with short pips. This rubbers has been designed for smashing, flat hitting, and driving. Intended for an aggressive playstyle, it is suited for players looking to play quickly close to the table.


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Hmm, it would be interesting to try out this one! I wonder how hard is the sponge...

Is anyone aware of other inverted rubbers that are claimed to "play like pips out"? have you tried any?


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Sponge is 40deg (Japanese scale). No I don't remember of other (inverted) rubbers making that claim.

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Is Japanese scale what BTY's using? 40 degrees is pretty hard if that's the case.


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I'm not sure what scale Nittaku uses... perhaps someone else knows?

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Interesting design. Looks like large, tall, fairly dense conical short pips turned up-side down! Could this be Moristo AX inverted?

Definitely has the design characteristics of a speed-oriented rubber, although pip width and density is also quite high, I doubt it has spin-insensitive qualities.


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I guess it's technically possible to create a less grippy top sheet that will be less spinny and less sensitive to spin.

On a side note, I'm not sure what is the benefit of using an inverted rubber that plays like SP, other than confusing your opponents...


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I bought this rubber 2 months ago when It was jut released. At first I thought it was surpisingly similar to mantra H and a little bit like the Sigma 1 pro. Surprisingly quick, low throw very direct and very grippy. Tested it on the Nittaku S5. Then I switched it to the Donic Ovtcharov Carbospeed and it's performs completely changed might be because the initial grip had dissappeared. This is a very low throw, low grip inverted, not sensitive to incoming spin at all.

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sunflex, does it indeed play like short pips?
What can you say about the sponge hardness and the weight of the rubber? Thanks!


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If it really does play like short pips, why not just buy short pips, especially since the weight of short pips is often less? :lol:

I wonder what "Goriki" means... I notice Nittaku uses the name on a lot of things (mainly blades). "Gori" is usually short for "Gorilla".. :lol: Anyone read kanji?

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Google Translate is translating "Goriki Kaisoku" as Rapid Rigidity. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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ziv wrote:
sunflex, does it indeed play like short pips?
What can you say about the sponge hardness and the weight of the rubber? Thanks!


it plays similar to sp in the sense that's very low throw and low grip! this rubber would be very suitable for a push blocker with a not really technical forehand smash.

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sunflex, does it indeed play like short pips?
What can you say about the sponge hardness and the weight of the rubber? Thanks!

it plays similar to sp in the sense that's very low throw and low grip! this rubber would be very suitable for a push blocker with a not really technical forehand smash.

Does low grip mean that it's kinda close to antispin rubbers, or is it different?
I'm very interested in the sponge hardness and weight data, could you please say something about that? Thanks!


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This thread (in French) states that some Japanese choppers are already using this rubber on FH:
https://forum.tennis-de-table.com/t/nit ... ku/30100/6


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So if choppers are using it, my assumption is that this rubber creates some decent spin? I currently use the Spinlord Sandwind on my forehand, which is classified as semi-anti, but I can still create at least some spin in order to loop and chop, but if this one creates MORE spin while still being spin-insensitive, that would be great. If anyone has any insight into how much spin this thing creates, I'd be curious.

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