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Aye I bet Joo is a Man Utd fan. They've gotten rid of Park now but they've acquired even greater talent Shinji Kagawa so I'd imagine it shan't be long before the Japanese go Man Utd crazy too!

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Blades: Butterfly Defence 3, Butterfly Defence Pro, Butterfly Innerforce ZLC, Butterfly Innershield, DHS Power G7, Stiga Offensive Classic Carbon
SPs: Friendship 802 (1.5), TSP Spectol (1.3, 1.8, 2.1), TSP Spectol Speed (1.3), TSP Super Spinpips Chop Sponge 2 (0.5, 1.3)
LPs: Butterfly Feint Long II (1), Butterfly Feint Long III (0.5, 1.3), Tibhar Grass D.TecS (OX), TSP Curl P1-R (0.5, 1, 1.3), TSP Curl P4 (1.3)

You feel the EJ bug biting again, don't you, DA?

I guess this comment did not really surprise me, as this was my own finding as well, but it's great to hear it direct from an Elite player that plays with LP as well!

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It's always there, buried deep in the pips of my P-4, but sometimes it crawl up to the surface, just to show its ugly face

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If we could only do a followup on that...

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2) Defence II / Joola Octopus (0,5) / M3 (2,0)
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Thanks for all the "thank you" messages and appreciation!

Steven and I are working on a thank you note to Joo SaeHyuk and to Roy Yun. We will do this on behalf of the forum and provide the link to the interview (and the reactions). We will also invite Joo SaeHyuk to join the forum!

Justas,
About the idea of a follow-up... Steven and I are not sure if it would be desirable to add any more questions through email conversation for Joo. Compared to other interviews we've seen on the web, our interview of Joo was rather long, and he was so gracious and patient in answering everything. We would think that it would be ideal if he joined our forum, that way we could ask him lots more questions. But maybe that's too much wishful thinking...

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Exclusive OOAK-Interview with Joo Saehyuk | Masato Shiono | Panagiotis Gionis

He might want to join our forum, but I think the problem is the language. He speaks a little English, but not a lot. Maybe we should start a Korean section?

I totally agree with you, that's why I left " " at the end. Meaning you didn't have to respond to that at all

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Setups (click on writings to read reviews):
1) Defence III / TSP P4 (0,5) / M3 (2,0)
2) Defence II / Joola Octopus (0,5) / M3 (2,0)
3) Ross Leidy "White Shadow" / P1R (1,3) / Hexer PS (1,7)

If Joo really would like to join the forum to answer some more questions, I think we will surely find some way of translating both the questions and the answers.

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I have been wondering this before: would the upcoming ball change be the reason why there are some short pips choppers appearing on the scene lately? Would the ball change be less detrimental for short pip players?

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Exclusive OOAK-Interview with Joo Saehyuk | Masato Shiono | Panagiotis Gionis

I suppose it is less detrimental for SP choppers because they can impart a great deal of spin themselves. But the creation of a SP chopper is started some 10/15 years ago. Then there was no sign of the arrival of the new polyball.

A few things that come to my mind:

1) If the new ball is less spinny, it will also be harder for SP choppers to create their own spin (?)

2) Creation of SP choppers is started some 10/15 years ago when indeed there was no sign of polyballs. However when we go 10/15 years back, we are close to the introduction of the 40mm ball in 2000. Maybe the combination of a slower and less spinny game benefits SP chopping (?)

3) At the same time, LP chopping seems to be flourishing the last couple of years, with quite some LP top 100 players and with Joo Saehyuk even ranked number 5 some months ago. I don't know what the situation was 10 or even 20 years ago (?)

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Only now that I was able to read the full interview! Where had I been .

This is very inspiring indeed.

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Here's my view:

-The advantage of SP chopping over LP is its ability to create significant spin of its own. By alternating spin and no-spin chops with a great range of spin variations, a SP defender forces an attacker to read spin correctly on every return, much more so than against LP choppers. If the new poly ball produces a X amount less of spin, then the range of spin that a SP chopper can produce will also be reduced by the X amount. This will make spin reading by the attacker easier by the X factor as well. At the world-class level for men, as soon as the spin on a chop is read correctly AND confidently by the attacker, the chopper will be at a great disadvantage.

-LPs allow a defender to chop the ball at various stages of the incoming ball's flight, unlike SPs which must wait until the ball reaches past maximum height. This means a LP chopper can cover the court much more effectively than SP choppers, regardless of the amount of spin on the ball. So in this regard I believe LPs will still be very important (if not more so) for the new poly ball era.

-I believe with reduced spin that will come with the new poly ball, SP choppers must be a lot more aggressive in attacking with SP on their bh, because spin variations will no longer be as effective as before. This in turn will force SP choppers to stay closer to the table. By seeking to punch-block weak loops to their bh more actively, they will be able to do so and at the same time put more pressure on their opponents. Which brings another point: The new poly ball will bring players closer to the table and to hit harder than ever before. Faster equipments will be introduced. Rallies will NOT get longer at the top level than it is now.

How much less spin are we talking?

If it's a significant amount, there's a chance that certain players will be able to drive through the backspin produced by LPs, which would make them redundant?

If it's a less-significant amount, you'd imagine that the spin variation produced by SPs will still be effective.

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My YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtazeX ... oICGS9bqNg
Join the OOAK Discord!: https://discord.gg/Yw2hYUdz3g

[Other gear I've used]
Blades: Butterfly Defence 3, Butterfly Defence Pro, Butterfly Innerforce ZLC, Butterfly Innershield, DHS Power G7, Stiga Offensive Classic Carbon
SPs: Friendship 802 (1.5), TSP Spectol (1.3, 1.8, 2.1), TSP Spectol Speed (1.3), TSP Super Spinpips Chop Sponge 2 (0.5, 1.3)
LPs: Butterfly Feint Long II (1), Butterfly Feint Long III (0.5, 1.3), Tibhar Grass D.TecS (OX), TSP Curl P1-R (0.5, 1, 1.3), TSP Curl P4 (1.3)