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 Post subject: Re: Holy Chtchet!
PostPosted: 06 Jul 2017, 05:50 
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They can always block it back, essentially restarting the rally. A smart player will block it to your BH, making your attack impossible and getting a low spin ball from the pips which he'll attack again. It's true it's hard to drop it short.


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 Post subject: Re: Holy Chtchet!
PostPosted: 07 Jul 2017, 04:28 
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You are evolving more towards Jian Li play style :), he does not chop much on FH either.

Thanks. I'm usually the one doing the fixing...too much of a hurry.

As for the style...I would say I'm evolving to somewhere between them.

I play more like Jian Li with the LPs, and more like Ericson on the FH. I am far more conservative with the LPs than Jian however, kind of like Gurra...

I certainly don't loop on the FH as often either of them. I think my serves are more like Gustaf. I have no idea what Jian Li is doing on his serves...they all look like underspin serves to me...Gustaf is more straight foward.

Also, my best attacking shot is my BH hit or BH loop, so I twiddle a lot and run around my FH to hit a BH like Gurra. Definitely in the middle.

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Chtchet!
PostPosted: 07 Jul 2017, 23:45 
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 Post subject: Re: Holy Chtchet!
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Another link I found on Larry's blog.

Attack Vs. Defense



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 Post subject: Re: Holy Chtchet!
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This is one of the nicest chopper versus attacker rallies you will ever see. Check out the rally at 1455!!!!


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PostPosted: 12 Jul 2017, 20:21 
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Japsican wrote:
This is one of the nicest chopper versus attacker rallies you will ever see. Check out the rally at 1455!!!!


Although it's a nice rally, I've seen better. The chopper has also a very strange technique.


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 Post subject: Re: Holy Chtchet!
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 Post subject: Re: Holy Chtchet!
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Moving to a grippier setup, some observations.

I have noticed that when I transitioned to grippier long pips, in general, I tend to beat and lose to the same people; my level is about the same. I tend to not get as many upsets vs. guys who are better than me, and I tend to not get upset as often from people who are lower level than me. I do think I’m better (or have the potential to be better) vs. people at my level. This is probably because flatter, low-spin players tend to be lower level (not always) and grippy pips help with that because you can add spin to their flat hits and pushes. Higher level guys have trickier serves and more spin, and grippier pips are more at the mercy of their spin requiring more better (different) technique, which is why my results are worse vs. them.


I like a more horizontal stroke, which I find to be more consistent because you can essentially aim your blade angle at the targeted trajectory, and swing away, which allows me to “go for it” with bat speed vs. spinnier players. So long as I swing faster than their spin, it works, have to practice this.

I like being in control of the spin more, dictating high spin and low spin, not always due to randomization.

I need to work on service return. I expected to find return of service easier with more slippery pips, but was surprised that I would find it far easier to return service with inverted as well. The in-between nature of grippier Pips is less intuitive, but I started getting it after a few sessions.

Overall, the short game is better, and I also like being at the table more, which P4 and FL3 allow. It makes attacking easier because I don’t have to travel as far to cover the distance to the table. I also love being able to add quality to the service return rather than just the opponents spin returned. I also like being able to attack with the pips, with inverted strokes.

Only thing left to try is P-1R in the thickest sponge, 1.5~1.7mm…wondering how this compares to FL3 in 1.3mm. Posted a question about that here: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31857

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