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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
PostPosted: 09 Feb 2017, 13:43 
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Match breakdown (my score always first).

Game 1: 4 missed BH shots, 2 weak returns

1-0: Misses FH against fish/lob
2-0: The same, but this time on his BH
3-0: Nets my BH chop
4-0: Sends my bump long
5-0: Misses my 'fish' to his BH
6-0: Misses BH chop
6-1: My 'lob' gets smashed to my BH
6-2: Miss ball on BH chop attempt
7-2: Misses FH after my weak FH drive
8-2: Sends my long serve to his BH long
8-3: Miss LP block to my BH
8-4: Send my BH chop into the net
9-4: Nets my first BH chop
10-4: Misses my serve (a bit of sidespin)
10-5: Send my serve receive bump long
10-6: My high FH chop receive gets smashed
11-6: Misses my long serve with pips to BH

Game 2: 5 BH mistakes, 4 FH errors, 1 weak return, 1 out of position

1-0: Misses my swipe receive
1-1: Mishit BH chop
2-1: Sends long my LP block/bump
3-1: Misses smash
4-1: Misses FH attack of my FH 'chop'
5-1: Nets BH chop
6-1: Nets BH chop
7-1: Nets BH chop
8-1: Sends wide my side sidespin 'drive'
8-2: Smashes high return to my FH
8-3: Miss fish attempt against his sidespin loop to my wide FH
8-4: Miss unexpected serve return down the line
8-5: Send drop ball long with LP
8-6: Chopped serve goes long
8-7: Bump to BH goes long
8-8: Miss lob
9-8: Put away high ball with FH
10-8: Misses FH attack
10-9: Lift LP long
10-10: Fish goes long
11-10: Misses my weak FH drive to BH
11-11: I net FH
12-11: Misses BH chop/block
13:11: Nets drop shot against BH chop

Game 3: 8 BH misses, 2 FH , 1 edge.

1-0: Nets LP bump
1-1: BH chop goes long
2-1: Nets BH chop
2-2: Net BH chop
2-3: Net BH chop
2-4: Net BH chop ( I see pattern developing here... :) )
3-4: Nets high BH chop
3-5: Fish goes long
4-5: Attacks serve to BH, goes long
5-5: Attacks and nets serve to BH
6-5: Nets BH chop
6-6: Net long serve to my wide BH
7-6: Drop shot goes long
7-7: Mishit BH chop (finger! :@ )
8-7: Sends LP block long
8-8: Net BH chop
8-9: Edge
8-10: Fish goes long
8-11: Chopped serve goes long

Game 4: 3 BH mistakes, 1 FH, 1 net.

1-0: Sends wide bumped serve
2-0: Nets swiped serve
3-0: Nets BH chop
4-0: Sends BH chop long
5-0: Nets BH chop
5-1: Net FH on high ball
5-2: Net BH chop
6-2: Sends long LP ball after the net
7-2: Mishits FH
8-2: Nets swiped serve
9-2: Nets long serve to BH
10-2: Sends long LP serve
10-3: Net dribbler
10-4: Bump goes long
10-5: Net BH chop
11-5: Nets BH chop

Verdict: too many misses on BH.

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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
PostPosted: 09 Feb 2017, 13:46 
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I somehow think pgpg would be severely reprimanded and have to sing "Bestraffe mich" all week long as a minor punishment.
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Heh, I actually like Rammstein!



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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
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for places with less room, what about a gorrilapod (or any of the many clones).

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You could attach it to any of the barriers, so long as the camera isn't fragile.

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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
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Japsican wrote:
for places with less room, what about a gorrilapod (or any of the many clones).

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You could attach it to any of the barriers, so long as the camera isn't fragile.


I have a tiny gorillapod I used to prop up on my side of the table next to the net. Main challenge was that small Canon photo camera drained battery very quickly in video mode. It was still useful, perhaps I will try it again.

Barriers are too flimsy, I think, to hold camcorder. There is one guy in the club who on the weekends sometimes attaches his DSLR to the AC duct with some interesting contraption, but you have to aim it pretty well, I think.

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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
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I was thinking of a smart phone and a smart phone holder on the gorillapod.

That should be light enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
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Y'know, that match had such a slow pace that sometimes, I felt like if I played either of them, I wouldn't get completely crushed (although I know I would still lose :P)


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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
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Y'know, that match had such a slow pace that sometimes, I felt like if I played either of them, I wouldn't get completely crushed (although I know I would still lose :P)


No idea whether either of us would crush you - both of us are around 1750, give or take few points, for what it's worth. As far as slow pace - I was playing defensively, pretty much no attacks whatsoever from me. It was a last game in the RR group between C and D players, so neither of us was advancing, and only rating points were on the line.

You probably should see some of your matches on video - you might be surprised how it looks ;). Let's face it - amateur matches look very different from pros.

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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
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Danthespearton wrote:
Y'know, that match had such a slow pace that sometimes, I felt like if I played either of them, I wouldn't get completely crushed (although I know I would still lose :P)


No idea whether either of us would crush you - both of us are around 1750, give or take few points, for what it's worth. As far as slow pace - I was playing defensively, pretty much no attacks whatsoever from me. It was a last game in the RR group between C and D players, so neither of us was advancing, and only rating points were on the line.

You probably should see some of your matches on video - you might be surprised how it looks ;). Let's face it - amateur matches look very different from pros.

ROFL, my matches are horrible, they're so short because people my level either lose against me badly or crush me; I never get to play the way I actually want to play


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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
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pgpg wrote:
Danthespearton wrote:
Y'know, that match had such a slow pace that sometimes, I felt like if I played either of them, I wouldn't get completely crushed (although I know I would still lose :P)


No idea whether either of us would crush you - both of us are around 1750, give or take few points, for what it's worth. As far as slow pace - I was playing defensively, pretty much no attacks whatsoever from me. It was a last game in the RR group between C and D players, so neither of us was advancing, and only rating points were on the line.

You probably should see some of your matches on video - you might be surprised how it looks ;). Let's face it - amateur matches look very different from pros.

ROFL, my matches are horrible, they're so short because people my level either lose against me badly or crush me; I never get to play the way I actually want to play

Seriously though, sometimes, it looks like I could just smash that ball past both of you guys during some of the points xD but there's so much spin involved in the rally


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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
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Nice blog-
Im using a cut down grubba pro and have 2 defplays-they play similar.
how many f/h rubbers have you tried on your defplay.
im using tac c in 1.9mm-i dont miss much but im thinking of going faster.
why did you settle on FH: Baracuda 2mm
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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
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peterpong wrote:
Nice blog-
Im using a cut down grubba pro and have 2 defplays-they play similar.
how many f/h rubbers have you tried on your defplay.
im using tac c in 1.9mm-i dont miss much but im thinking of going faster.
why did you settle on FH: Baracuda 2mm
cheers
ps-ill read the full blog tonight :Chop:


Looking back I only played with Baracuda on Defplay (1.8 and 2.0) and Marder II (1.5), but only for a very short time. Got Baracuda originally more or less sight unseen, based on what I've heard: very good spin, durability, and not terribly fast. Pretty much works as advertised. Right now playing with 2.0 mm version, since it gets more oomph on FH (heavier LP helps too).

Might try Bluefire M2 I have somewhere in my pile of rubbers, to see if it helps with attack. May be will move Rasant Grip from VKM to see how it does too.

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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
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just read the blog-why did you settle on the defplay over the other blades.i really like the defplay for blocking and control.
if you can get a cheap grubba pro i would go for it.Ill buy it if you dont like it ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
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just read the blog-why did you settle on the defplay over the other blades.i really like the defplay for blocking and control.
if you can get a cheap grubba pro i would go for it.Ill buy it if you dont like it ;)


It's really hard for me to pinpoint why - its main competition was VKM and JSH, which are heavier (and I still have both). I guess at the moment I prefer lighter setup, to a degree, and I also think Defplay is flexy, which might help with looping. I still occasionally try the other ones, but also attempt to stick with one setup for league and tournaments.

Don't know really - I guess I just like it. :^) Also - I am not much of a blocker, especially with pips, trying to stick with chopping as much as I can.

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 Post subject: Re: Zen of chopping
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I understand.You may go back and forth a bit with blades till you find the right one(possibly the defplay :) ).
i like the senso but have the classic aswell(untried)


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