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PostPosted: 04 Dec 2017, 18:25 
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Don't put too much pressure on one tourney to measure a year of improvement. It's too random how you show up on the day. Could be great, or lousy, or average, it's just a snapshot. You really need four or five to see if the upward trend you are hoping for is there.

About NL's suggestion to hit different placements from the same body position -- that contradicts William's long-form footwork part 2 video. I think those were extra videos sold separately on ttedge, did either of you buy them? Anyway I'm curious what brett would say on that. I'm kind of thinking you should get into optimal position to execute your shot and let the opponent read the body language. If the placement is good, as in to the elbow or outside their effective range so they have to step out of position, then you are in control of the point


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Don't put too much pressure on one tourney to measure a year of improvement. It's too random how you show up on the day. Could be great, or lousy, or average, it's just a snapshot. You really need four or five to see if the upward trend you are hoping for is there.

About NL's suggestion to hit different placements from the same body position -- that contradicts William's long-form footwork part 2 video. I think those were extra videos sold separately on ttedge, did either of you buy them? Anyway I'm curious what brett would say on that. I'm kind of thinking you should get into optimal position to execute your shot and let the opponent read the body language. If the placement is good, as in to the elbow or outside their effective range so they have to step out of position, then you are in control of the point


Some of what William discusses in that video can be achieved with more rotation of the shoulders to give you more placement options. Or taking the ball earlier or later in the stroke path. There is no real contradiction, look at the TTEdge App, you can use the footwork to optimize ease of placement or use shoulder rotation to get good placement with deception. But the key is not to be locked into playing the shot to the same spot on the table all the time. I have started placing too many balls to the forehand and some opponents notice it too easily.

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BRS wrote:
Don't put too much pressure on one tourney to measure a year of improvement. It's too random how you show up on the day. Could be great, or lousy, or average, it's just a snapshot. You really need four or five to see if the upward trend you are hoping for is there.

About NL's suggestion to hit different placements from the same body position -- that contradicts William's long-form footwork part 2 video. I think those were extra videos sold separately on ttedge, did either of you buy them? Anyway I'm curious what brett would say on that. I'm kind of thinking you should get into optimal position to execute your shot and let the opponent read the body language. If the placement is good, as in to the elbow or outside their effective range so they have to step out of position, then you are in control of the point


Yeah I think the reason I wrote my comment about 1 tourney to determine my improvement is because it likely wont. Putting pressure on myself with this one is pretty silly, but I have put a lot of focus on it because it helps me get to my goals. If I do poorly then I just want to make sure that I don't get upset so much that I quit playing for a while so it is important to be realistic about expectations and discuss what needs to be worked on further. In no way do I believe this is as good as I am going to get.

I didn't buy those videos. There is so much content that I'm just cherry picking what I find most useful. I think NL is mostly discussing the idea of being able to hit different angles from similar positions and even able to change direction on people who fish/retrieve. Federer is a god at this and occasionally I've done it. My issues are against good retrievers. I am in control of the point but errors happen. It's gotten much better the last 3 months.


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The tourney blog...day 1 of the us open.

Well, doing 1 tourney a year just isn't enough! Pretty rough day. I'm a little bit sick and played like it.
To start off I was expected to lose all of the matches and I did. Pretty difficult draw and I think even if I played my best I likely would have lost all except perhaps the last one.

First match I was soundly beat as the second seeded player was able to counter-top spin with ease. He would serve with a top spin ball and then crack the return. My returns were simply not good enough and he was all over every top spin. In the 3rd game I tried to play a softer return and that worked a lot better but still lost that game.
Positives: returned up to my standards and tried something else in game 3 that had some success.
Negatives: Served really poorly myself. Lots of mistakes, nerves early on.

Second match was against the top seed rated over 2000. Young man had a hell of a good game from both sides. He crushed me in game 1 but in game 2 I actually won. I'm not really sure how that happened. He was able to beat me on games 3 and 4 pretty easily and it seemed like he relaxed a bit and really hammered my serve. Winning that game 2 felt good but it also made me pretty tired. It felt like that was pretty much all I had left for the day and I wasn't even half done!
Positives: took a game off a 2k player
Negatives: not much, still serves could have been a lot better. returns again need to be better but I did not get served off the table.

Third match was against a player who did not look that great but he was a crazy good counter to me. I'll have to review the tape but he took care of me big time. I was really lost out there. His backhand was fantastic.
Positives: not much...
Negatives: I never really found a solution in that match.

Fourth match was against a youngster with really good forehand and backhand strokes. He served extremely low also. I watched him in other matches and he liked to push a lot so I thought I could use that to my advantage. I did, we went 2-2 in games and in the 5th game his coach/mom told him to serve flat and deep to my shoulder. His serve is low and pretty fast, but I was able to return it...but that was all part of their plan. He would then attack the relatively weaker return with his backhand and win the point. Good tactics and he very well might have lost without the coaching. I did adjust by moving back but the truth was my backhand just was not good enough to attack the serve.
Positives: Played solid tactics.
Negatives: Return just was not crisp enough.

I know I'm mostly writing this for myself and I will upload the videos for all to see. I'm sure there are tons of other issues going on, but this is my personal feelings on the matches.

So I don't think I was served off the table for once. I was able to see top spin and backspin but dead balls were a little tougher to pick out. So a couple of notes: all of these players punished mistakes or weaker balls. There were few mistakes on put aways. My return was punished over and over. I pretty much have improved to the point where I have found new ways to lose - not on the serve but on the 3rd ball! I can see that I need to become more aggressive on return - I think this will come but I will need to push it in training. I also need to be better at the 3rd ball attack myself. I really need to reduce the errors when an easier ball comes to me. Their 3rd ball confidence was certainly the difference.

I also need to not be sick during the one tourney of the year but that's life. I was pretty frustrated after all of that but the truth is they all were pretty solid players and even my best game was likely not enough to beat any of these players except perhaps the match that went to game 5. In the end much of my training is against players where I tend to be the aggressive player and make the winners but against this lot I was faced with players who are even better at offense and have real confidence in it.


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