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Ma Long, Fan Zhendong and Xu Xin Apologize for China Open Forfeit:

The Chinese Table Tennis Team has released the following statement for Ma Long, Fan Zhendong and Xu Xin forfeiting their round of 16 matches at the Seamaster 2017 ITTF World Tour China Open. A few minutes later, Ma Long, Fan Zhendong and Xu Xin posted the same statement on their Weibo accounts.
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http://www.ittf.com/2017/06/24/ma-long- ... n-forfeit/

Wow, pretty amazing that they would decide together to forfeit! :o :o :o I do wonder how genuine the apology was... or were they forced to say this?

Or do have have this all wrong, and Sharara has finally found a way to get the Chinese out of the medals? 8) :lol:

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It's always Sharara's fault.. :lol:



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I find this entire affair fascinating and have been following it as well as I can. I am surprised that it doesn't seem to have evoked much commentary here at OOAK. I am trying to think of any time in my lifetime that well known Chinese athletes have defaulted out of a major international competition to protest the actions of their own government. (In China, sports is run by the government, the decision to fire LGL was made by what is essentially the Ministry of Sports, and the relatively new head of that used to be the Vice Mayor of Beijing). So now the punishment they receive is extremely interesting. One detail of note is that all of the players posted identical apologies. Not one word was different. It was clearly written for them (lots of classic Chinese ideological text straight out of the 1970s). The day before, their social media webpages (Webo) were shut down. From what I can discern (my wife did some checking for me, she speaks Chinese), the general netizens of China are supporting the players and can see through the transparency of the identically-worded apologies. Given that the sports ministry is now being ridiculed, the players may have achieved their objective, but it is going to cost them. Their salary may be cut, their endorsement opportunities will be diminished. This took guts on their part. It is notable that Zhang Jike does not seem to have taken part at all. This itself is raising a ton of comment.

Meanwhile, as to the reasons they fired LGL, the rumors are flying fast and furious and it is going to be hard to tease out the truth.

Meanwhile the ITTF, just like the IOC in 1968 at the time of Tommie Smith and John Carlos, appears eager to position themselves on what will certainly be the wrong side of history.

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So, in addition to running sport, does the government also run vice?

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(In China, sports is run by the government, the decision to fire LGL was made by what is essentially the Ministry of Sports, and the relatively new head of that used to be the Vice Mayor of Beijing)

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Baal wrote:
I am surprised that it doesn't seem to have evoked much commentary here at OOAK.


We can only pick one institution at the time to complain about. :lol:

I've been following it too on the MyTT website. I'd be surprised the Chinese government takes on a celebrity like Ma Long or Xu Xin with a big punishment. Wouldn't that cause major protests? And who will they send out to defend theit national sport then? I don't know the Chinese culture, though.


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The only other instance of a "revolt" I can think of was Li Na. I'll have to find that NYT article again. Apparently she had to do quite a bit to get allowed to participate as a full-blown pro.

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We can only pick one institution at the time to complain about. :lol:


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Lorre wrote:
Baal wrote:
I am surprised that it doesn't seem to have evoked much commentary here at OOAK.


We can only pick one institution at the time to complain about. :lol:

I've been following it too on the MyTT website. I'd be surprised the Chinese government takes on a celebrity like Ma Long or Xu Xin with a big punishment. Wouldn't that cause major protests? And who will they send out to defend theit national sport then? I don't know the Chinese culture, though.

If they need to make an example of someone to keep the masses in line, is there anyone better?


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If they need to make an example of someone to keep the masses in line, is there anyone better?


Yes, but it could go very wrong too. Don't forget: if you take ML, XX, FZD away, you could say to Europe and other Asian countries: "here, you can have our sport."


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