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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
PostPosted: 26 Jan 2016, 23:58 
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I use individual's rating. Not sure the others reflect a whole picture, but I guess if they don't play league then Individual = Tournament anyway.

Edit: You don't need to create a user account to do a rating search btw.

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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2016, 00:06 
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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
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I find it interesting to look at the top 100 US men... so many of them are not US citizens but Pros from other countries that are the World's top players. In other worlds a heck of a lot of World Players have USATT ranking...even if some of them are a bit outdated.

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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2016, 00:15 
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Tournament.


Could you elaborate that please :) .

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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2016, 00:26 
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Tournament.


Could you elaborate that please :) .


Sorry - if user has both Tournament and League rating, I would use tournament one, since these are a better reflection of player strength IMHO (you play the same people more or less in the league and most folks don't treat it as seriously as official tournaments).

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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
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Two players for the higher end of the OOAK-ranking: Leatherback and Manofan. There are youtube-fragments of both players. Any idea where exactly to place them?

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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
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Two players for the higher end of the OOAK-ranking: Leatherback and Manofan. There are youtube-fragments of both players. Any idea where exactly to place them?


Thanks Pipsy. I don't have leatherback listed, I do have Manofan listed for ranking. I have no idea where they'd sit though. Nathanso is another one I need to add.

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I mostly post in the blog section and the TTEdge threads, so most of you probably don't know me. But I'm a little under USATT 1800 (1785 to be exact), if you guys want to throw me down towards the bottom of your rankings. :D


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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2016, 06:16 
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This is an interesting thread. As I said to NextLevel when we met, I really like the concept of USATT ratings. I appreciate that any system relys on who is around at the time, but overall I haven't seen a better alternative. Interacting with someone who has a usatt rating gives you an approximate marker. NL placed me approximately where I had estimated. Stlyes can make it more complicated!

I would add pushblocker, current rating 2103 but has been up to 2300ish.

ChrisBuer would be a solid 2000 and capable of taking big scalps due to an unconventional style.

Andrewh13 would be 2000 plus, 2100 I'd say.

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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
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RebornTTEvnglist wrote:

BRS, have you got a ranking so we can put you in the list?


I'm 1680, so a step below Ringer, well below der-echte and NL.


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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
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Bogeyhunter is currently 2372 USATT, I believe.

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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
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I have wins over this guys that have some points in rating central...
2398±291 Paciullo, Fábio
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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
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wow.....what da heck is this? I don't care much about where I land. It's nice to see how many of us I have played/practiced or just hit a few balls with.

Here we go :

Tatwai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyc7nz2zV-U

Der_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PibE6qP9qJA

Pushblocker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWDpxgVLAAA

Chopper88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKtuosclDqU

Nextlevel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ARgmIkUzxA

Grumpyjoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-7p7lXzQMg

Ringer84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QzCuw6hdaU

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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
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Good work guys. The list is slowly expanding!

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 Post subject: Re: A New OOAK Ranking
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Interesting initiative, Reb :-)

From a ranking comparison I once read at a French or German forum (comparing French, Belgian, German and USA-ratings) I must be around 2100usatt, maybe just a little higher. Officially, I am ranked a bit (one ranking scale) higher than Lorre but in our mutual encounters he's leading 2-1 :whew: and he's having a good season now. I think we're both at the same level of Def-attack, maybe slightly lower.


That sound like it would work quite well with my formula above, which I still feel overrated my USATT a tad, I guess 2100-2200 would be more approriate. I think the formula got a little wrong, due to Prachi Jha's low Swedish ranking. I don't know why she got such a low first ranking (there are certain rules how the first ranking points should be calculated). She has beaten several players above 2000 points and lost only to one player below 2000, so I would say she should be around 2050 at least, if she had played more matches (she just beat Naomi Owens who is at 2188).

With that correction the new formula would be: swedish rankingpoints*0,39 + 1576. This gives me a more moderate (and realistic) USATT-point at 2134 and Auzcar gets 2309.

It would be nice if anyone could check Seth Pech's ranking points in USA.


OK, new version based on 9 different players:

USATT points should be close to: swedish rankingpoints*0,5 + 1350.

The +1350 might be 1300 or 1400 or something else and it might change over time since there is a degree of inflation over time in the Swedish system, meaning that if I am at the same level and continune to compete and playe in league, my ranking should increase slightly over time. I am not sure this is the case with USATT. But for now this formula will have to do.

This places me just below 2100 and Auzcar just below 2300.

I believe Roy is a player from Finland, he probably have been playing against a few player in the Swedis ranking system , so it would be easy to estimate his level in USATT.

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