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Probably about equal to the number of spares you can fit in your bag Id say

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There is, however, I think, a limit to how many rackets you can send down to Racket Control. I don't think people usually send more than two. I don't know if you are allowed to use someone else's "passed" racket. At that level, you can't simply pull another one out of the bag - you're not even allowed to bring the racket to the table, the umps do it.

I wonder if Tennis tournaments have a "Racket Control" - you do see Nadal et al. show up with a huge bag of them (usually with the heads wrapped in plastic). I've always wondered how they get those logos on the strings.

Iskandar

the real question is, can you prove he did it on purpose?

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Just Bad conduct, no disqual needed...

Player wrecks racket onto floor in elation or for some prankish reason.
-- Germans umpires now instructed to only issue a warning yellow card for bad and pranky conduct, no disqualification required upon the "wrecker" anyway. German umpires always judging this violent handling of racket as a bad conduct by the player, no more.

Thank you very much friends...but one question more about this...Is the player allowed to change his or her bat with a new one with different rubbers ..for example first bat one side is pimpled but the changed bat inverted on both sides..Thanks

Interesting question. In which case, if he desires to change bats, all he need do is "accidentally" hit the side of the table with the one he's using!

Iskandar

I dont believe there is any rule about what the replacement bat should be. As Isk points out, for pros it needs to have gone through racquet control, but for plebs, its whatever you have in your bag.

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Quite often racket control is pre-match, but there are occasions when it will be post-match. This might just be one of them.

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I've thought about that a few times as well, the impression I've got is that it doesn't need to be the same type of rubber/blade at all, as long as it's approved and "legal" to use.

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I suppose, for us plebians, anything goes.. Except at a tournament. I'm not sure what form of racket control may be in effect at the U-1300 event at a small US tournament, but I'll bet it's non-existent to pretty cursory.

In the old days there wasn't any sort of racket control. People would be gluing up rackets in the bleachers, etc. And you could change bats anytime you wanted, as long as you let your opponent see what you had. Someone even posted about knowing someone who actually used two bats as a matter of course when a match went into expedite - he'd use one when serving, the other when receiving!

Iskandar

Yes it was

IT is umpire's job to be able to tell if the racket destroyed incidentally or on purpose. Wrecking racket more than once in a match is not realistic situation, still once it do happen you adviced to look for Refery decision.

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Hear is how German umpires will deal with the case of "racket destroyed by player". At first case in a match warning issued, racket may be changed.

USING DIFFERENT RACKETS IN A MATCH IS A STUPED ADVENTURY.

Is it good to replace damaged racket for another one of diferent type, say some smooth rubber replaced for pimpled rubber ??
This does not look a wise deed, because you cant readjust your play instantly.
If you dare to change to a racket with some different type of rubber, say pimpled one instead of smooth one, then it is most likely to destroy your play badly.

This is the reason that all the pro player always bring up two or three spare rackets For a match, all those racket equiped with one same rubbers, and one same weight up to a gramme..

Everything you need to know about this is here in the ITTF guide for match officials:

http://ultm.org/download/descargas_arbi ... dition.pdf

There are a couple of issues here. First, what happens if equipment is damaged.

7.4
Damage
7.4.1 A racket which is legal when a player starts to use it may become damaged to an extent
which invalidates its legality by, perhaps, destroying the continuity of the covering or
the uniformity of pimples over a significant part of the surface. If a player wishes to
continue with a damaged racket and the umpire has any doubt about its continuing
legality he or she should immediately report to the referee.
7.4.2 In deciding whether to allow further use of a damaged racket the referee should
consider primarily the interests of the opponent. The ball is likely to rebound
unpredictably from a damaged surface and this could cause difficulties for both players,
although the although the player who wishes to use the racket has implicitly accepted this risk.
Therefore, unless the damage is trivial, it is generally better for the racket to be
replaced.

Of course, that implicitly refers to blades damaged by accident. So what about bad conduct? There is a lot more on that in the Handbook, and it is quite nuanced. All of section 17 deals with the broad aspects of players and coaches behaving badly. Here is one key section

17.1.6 When misbehaviour occurs, the umpire has to decide whether the offence is so serious that he or she must suspend play and report immediately to the referee [in many cases in the US this would be the tournament director or his/her designated representative]. Although this option is always available and should be used when appropriate, it should rarely be necessary on the first occasion and in most circumstances the initial action should be to give the offender a warning.

Probably if a player smashes the racket play should be immediately suspended and the referee summoned. The referee in turn can do the following:

17.4.1 The referee may disqualify a player from a match, an event or a whole competition, depending on the gravity of the offence. This is a matter for his or her judgment but when a player is reported for continuing to misbehave after the award of 2 penalty
points the referee would normally disqualify him or her, holding up a red card. In very serious cases he or she would also make a formal report to the player’s parent Association.

Almost certainly smashing a racket will make you immediately lose the match.

For lesser offenses, the Handbook states that the umpire has a range of options ranging from giving an offending player a dirty look, give a yellow card warning, and after that start taking away points. The Handbook gives all sorts of advice on how to go about this. It is all pretty userful.

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Reminds me of a story I was told once, about Harry Deschamps. Harry was this quite old (maybe 60+ at the time) hardbat chopper who was rated around 2000 in the mid-1980s. He would regularly beat up-and-coming kids who looped and used sponge. Apparently, one day, a kid got so frustrated he threw his racket against the wall. Handle came off. Harry picked up the racket head and peeled the rubber off it. Kid brought out another racket. Got frustrated again, threw racket against the wall. Harry walked over, picked it up and peeled the rubber off. The kid went through three or four rackets that match. Rich kid (or rich parents), apparently.

Also reminds me of the time the person who told me this story put a HUGE (table-edge shaped) divot in the side of his racket doing a tomahawk serve too close to the table.

Iskandar