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Author:  iskandar taib [ 14 Jun 2018, 02:01 ]
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That's where I differ with a lot of people here. Bad character??? Where?? Disrespect?? I don't think he's disrespectful at all. He does cho loudly when he wins a point, but he doesn't throw tantrums, he doesn't yell at people, he doesn't argue with the umpire, he doesn't show attitude, he doesn't get in peoples' faces, he shakes hands with everyone after the match. You hardly hear a peep from him when he's on a losing streak (watch the fourth and fifth games vs. Ma Long). I've seen and heard far worse... anyone who's ever witnessed Tim Boggan's antics when he's losing would know what I mean, for instance (imagine a 60+ year old man with long white hair screaming and cursing up and down the court, until a 12 year old boy in the adjacent court shouts for everyone to stop until he calms down.. and eventually when he does, the kid yells "Thank You!"... :lol: ).

Iskandar

Author:  benc6190 [ 14 Jun 2018, 12:56 ]
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I agree the celebrating every point won feels excessive but It's just a part of keeping momentum, not bad character. Table tennis points go by super fast as do the games so its important to keep your head in the game. It may negatively effect opponents but that is part of the "mental" game.

Author:  iskandar taib [ 18 Jun 2018, 13:48 ]
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Since Japan Open finals matches are being mentioned, here's Ito vs. Wang..



Harimoto's game does look similar in some ways to Ito's - close to the table, fantastic blocking and angles. The womens' game is slower, of course.. those bananas and "strawberries" are pretty effective when they work. 1:02 and 1:24.. which seems to be an extreme chicken-wing banana... :lol:

Iskandar

Author:  Japsican [ 18 Jun 2018, 23:03 ]
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I truly admire this kid's play, and I like him as a person. Very humble and respectful off the court. And I'm sure there is no intended ill-will towards people. But if you watch the NBA for example, you've seen when a guy dunks on another guy how they yell and scream because it was such a "in your face" moment.

Now, imagine if basketball players screamed on EVERY POINT MADE like midrange jumpers or routine layups, and NOT only after emphatic dunks or particularly good plays like pass/lob or 3 point shots at the buzzer. It would be obnoxious, and in fact they'd probably receive a technical for it. I think that's how most people see Tomo's choing...as over doing it. He chos on 97% of all points made, and most are not particularly noteworthy.


Author:  Japsican [ 19 Jun 2018, 00:40 ]
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And what some see as "disrespectful" is not the choing itself, but the frequency and intensity with which he chos. It's not like points are seldom had in TT. Not like a touchdown in American Football, or a Goal in Football (soccer) or a goal in hockey. Each one of those scores is worthy of celebration because a lot went in to getting that one point. But points are so frequently acquired in TT, choing loudly and emphatically on every single point, and even rather pedestrian points is over-doing it, and perceived as disrespectful. Again, I don't think he intends disrespect.

Author:  AsylumKing [ 19 Jun 2018, 04:43 ]
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benc6190 wrote:
I agree the celebrating every point won feels excessive but It's just a part of keeping momentum, not bad character. Table tennis points go by super fast as do the games so its important to keep your head in the game. It may negatively effect opponents but that is part of the "mental" game.


Have watched an interview of his. Comes across as a pretty quiet and humble guy. So due cred to his skill and the hardwork he's put in to reach this level at this age.

Like you mentioned it's a part of the mental game and pro or not im sure that kind of loud Cho'ing could unsettle someone. Personally not one for it, imagine everyone starts getting in on this loud Cho'ing competition. :worried:

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