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 Post subject: Manika Batra
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Hello Everybody,

Manika Batra is my favourite player with long pips OX. She is one of the best staying close to the table blocking and attacking using this rubber. Recently I made a video about her best 5 points, do you know some other point that could be interesting for adding to a new list?

Also if you know some other player who play like her, would be fantastic that you mention them.

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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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I love her play. Much for us to learn from. The last point from your video is really good (yes, they all are). Her ability to twiddle during the point while at the table is superior.


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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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I love her play. Much for us to learn from. The last point from your video is really good (yes, they all are). Her ability to twiddle during the point while at the table is superior.


Her twiddling is so fluent!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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BITTER TRUTH.

Speaking all honesty, it is good to see Batra cant overtake all players in sequence. If she could, we would eventually get everyone playing the same nasty style. Twiddling racket is a hookster trick at any rate, to ruin the game. That is the bitter truth.
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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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Currently World Number 36.

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads ... EN_WS.html

Interesting.. haven't looked at this in a while. Hinata Hina is now #5, Harimoto Miwa is #14, Bernadette Szocs is #12 (!), Han Ying is #9 (if this is who I think it is... the chopper who plays for Germany, and is quite a bit older than the rest of the Top 20), six of the top seven are Chinese (though the next ranked Chinese player, Zhang Rui, is #16).

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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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vanjr wrote:
I love her play. Much for us to learn from. The last point from your video is really good (yes, they all are). Her ability to twiddle during the point while at the table is superior.


It is true, she is such and inspiration, I really want to find more and more players like her, with this particular style to use long pips OX close to the table.

I hope also I can develops a similar style, and technic.

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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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vanjr wrote:
I love her play. Much for us to learn from. The last point from your video is really good (yes, they all are). Her ability to twiddle during the point while at the table is superior.


Her twiddling is so fluent!!!!!


Is fantastic, recently I found a 17 years old guy from Russia with the same level of twiddling and recently did a review in my channel. Maybe can be also useful for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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BITTER TRUTH.

Speaking all honesty, it is good to see Batra cant overtake all players in sequence. If she could, we would eventually get everyone playing the same nasty style. Twiddling racket is a hookster trick at any rate, to ruin the game. That is the bitter truth.
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I kindly disagree. I read your argument, but twiddling racket is an ability, something that you develop training, not a trick. But anyway, has I say I love a good debate with respect and intentions to learn.

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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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Currently World Number 36.

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads ... EN_WS.html

Interesting.. haven't looked at this in a while. Hinata Hina is now #5, Harimoto Miwa is #14, Bernadette Szocs is #12 (!), Han Ying is #9 (if this is who I think it is... the chopper who plays for Germany, and is quite a bit older than the rest of the Top 20), six of the top seven are Chinese (though the next ranked Chinese player, Zhang Rui, is #16).

Iskandar


Wow, thanks for sharing. Interesting to be analyzed.

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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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Diegox wrote:

I kindly disagree. I read your argument, but twiddling racket is an ability, something that you develop training, not a trick. But anyway, has I say I love a good debate with respect and intentions to learn.


Eh, just ignore Igor. He's a troll.

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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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Because of aging I am trying become a close to the table blocker. Used to be an away from the table chopper.
But thinking of Manika Batra I tend to think that she has reached the saturation point with most of her skills including twiddling & at the table blocking.
This has become sort of predictable. She lost in the first round in Indian Nationals this year & also similar in last year nationals . Also mostly because most Indian women are now imitating her with Dtec backhand.
But Manika has some advantages in that she is tall with a wide reach & she is definitely athletic enough. So I would tend to think maybe she must do more chopping combining it with her close to the table blocking , such as chop a few ball & suddenly come in and block wide to opponent's forehand (using her inverted on the backhand for speed) as soon as the opponent has stepped around & gets comfortable against the chop. The Dtec is good enough to be able chop decently unless she is going to switch to a super long pips. (The REAL GOAT of all of table tennis, Joo Saehyuk himself tried to use Dtec for a while) . This is the style I would play now if I was younger & less stupid . Of course this mix of chopping & blocking style is easier said than done & not an easy style to master . Otherwise every chopper or athletic blocker would be doing it LOL
Also there are some players who are notoriously weak against the chop & Manika should be able to beat them easier.
Other players she can torture them with a strategic mix of chopping & blocking depending on the opponent
She definitely needs to further diversify her game with a bigger stroke arsenal.
Otherwise as it stands now I will be shocked if she gets any better in the rankings. It is sort of the same old same old. I do give her lot of credit for improving her twiddling game later on in her career though.


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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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Diegox wrote:
vanjr wrote:
I love her play. Much for us to learn from. The last point from your video is really good (yes, they all are). Her ability to twiddle during the point while at the table is superior.


It is true, she is such and inspiration, I really want to find more and more players like her, with this particular style to use long pips OX close to the table.

I hope also I can develops a similar style, and technic.

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Look for Yashaswini Ghorpade. She is also indian (maybe they have the same coach ?) and have more or less the same style as Manika
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9g6nE2 ... UgdGVubmlz

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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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Because of aging I am trying become a close to the table blocker. Used to be an away from the table chopper.
But thinking of Manika Batra I tend to think that she has reached the saturation point with most of her skills including twiddling & at the table blocking.
This has become sort of predictable. She lost in the first round in Indian Nationals this year & also similar in last year nationals . Also mostly because most Indian women are now imitating her with Dtec backhand.
But Manika has some advantages in that she is tall with a wide reach & she is definitely athletic enough. So I would tend to think maybe she must do more chopping combining it with her close to the table blocking , such as chop a few ball & suddenly come in and block wide to opponent's forehand (using her inverted on the backhand for speed) as soon as the opponent has stepped around & gets comfortable against the chop. The Dtec is good enough to be able chop decently unless she is going to switch to a super long pips. (The REAL GOAT of all of table tennis, Joo Saehyuk himself tried to use Dtec for a while) . This is the style I would play now if I was younger & less stupid . Of course this mix of chopping & blocking style is easier said than done & not an easy style to master . Otherwise every chopper or athletic blocker would be doing it LOL
Also there are some players who are notoriously weak against the chop & Manika should be able to beat them easier.
Other players she can torture them with a strategic mix of chopping & blocking depending on the opponent
She definitely needs to further diversify her game with a bigger stroke arsenal.
Otherwise as it stands now I will be shocked if she gets any better in the rankings. It is sort of the same old same old. I do give her lot of credit for improving her twiddling game later on in her career though.


Hello, thanks you so much for taking your time to give this accurate answer with your point of view. I like that you try to express you points and I honestly think there is a lot of wisdom on them. I’m respectfully disagree about chopping. Actually if she goes far from the table, her game will lost the surprise that come from a fast answer close to the table. I totally agree that she can. Improve but maybe in an other way, like attacking ore with the pimples or opening mor the table in the lateral edges with her attack.

How you well said, she could improve her game it’s the twiddling, she can do everything she propose to do.

Thanks again for the answer and the knowledge on it.

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 Post subject: Re: Manika Batra
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Diegox wrote:
vanjr wrote:
I love her play. Much for us to learn from. The last point from your video is really good (yes, they all are). Her ability to twiddle during the point while at the table is superior.


It is true, she is such and inspiration, I really want to find more and more players like her, with this particular style to use long pips OX close to the table.

I hope also I can develops a similar style, and technic.

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Look for Yashaswini Ghorpade. She is also indian (maybe they have the same coach ?) and have more or less the same style as Manika
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9g6nE2 ... UgdGVubmlz


Wow, thanks for this. Actually I take all this nice recommendations for doing videos for my channel about those players.

I really appreciate when some body recommend to me a player that I didn’t know.

Thanks

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