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1. If a rubber is not on the ITTF list, either from not being submitted and purchased for approval or from being homemade, but meets the conditions set by the ITTF for a rubber, can I use it?

Not in league play or a tournament sanctioned by a national commission that requires ITTF international rules.
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2. Does the logo of the rubber have to be showing, or can I put the sheet on, say, upside down?

The logo must be showing. There would be issues putting the rubber upside down as then you wouldn't have a uniform striking service.
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3. Does the ITTF minumum friction rule apply specifically to long pips, since Adham used the argument that LP sides had friction and the sheet was therefore not uniform as a result to ban it, or does it also apply to classic rubbers and anti as well?

The minimum friction rule applies to all pips-out rubbers.
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4. If I have an ITTF-approved rubber, which is discontinued the following year, can I still use it since my sheet(s) are still good or I have a small stock of them?

In league play or a tournament sanctioned by a national commission that requires ITTF international rules, you may only use a rubber as long as it remains on the ITTF list in effect at the time.

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Here's something I've found on youtube...



The ball does not leave his racket and he walks over to the otherside of the table and places it gently :clap: :clap: :clap:

Great skills, but if you were playing him and somehow this situation happened will you call foul play???


That's quite amazing!! I'm thinking when he catches it there is a very slight bounce which would mean a double hit. Perhaps with a really, really tacky rubber this could be avoided. I can't think of anything in the rules that prevents this except perhaps for what the definition of a "strike" to the ball might be.

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Wow that's a great clip, and amazing skill! Yes i agree, it would probably not classify as a hit, but I'd hate to rule on that as well :sweat:

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speedplay wrote:
Since a double hit is now allowed, as long as it is made with in the same motion, the question wheter it bouncesor not on the blade becomes irrelevant. How ever, I don't think this is definied as a hit. I would still hate to make this call...


Not quite, a double hit is allowed if it is unintentional. In this case I think you can say that it is intentional, so I wouldn't allow it.

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1. are you allowed to clean your bat with sponge at the end of each game?

2. at end of each game is it true that bat must be left on table?

3. unusual one, are you allowed to clean rubber with sticky contact sheet[these come with some new rubbers] instead of a sponge? i find this adhesive sheet helps to remove dust
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mac33 wrote:
1. are you allowed to clean your bat with sponge at the end of each game?
2. at end of each game is it true that bat must be left on table?
3. unusual one, are you allowed to clean rubber with sticky contact sheet[these come with some new rubbers] instead of a sponge? i find this adhesive sheet helps to remove dust


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1.No. (Not sure, if you keep a sponge with your towel, you might even be allowed to do it during the games. I know some players use their towel to clean their rubbers.)
Yes, there is no restriction on cleaning your bat. I regularly clean mine with a wet cloth and then dry it between games. Sticky rubbers like H2 keep the ball clean during the game :(
2.Yes.
Agree with Speedplay here, at least if you are playing under ITTF rules, otherwise (as in UK leagues) there is no such requirement
3.As long as you don't change the rubber from it's original state, it should be fine.
Not something I would do because you really should keep those sheets clean ready to 'freshen' the rubbers between matches, also make sure you wipe the dust off the rubbers before reattaching the sticky sheets

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speedplay wrote:
wfberkhof wrote:
speedplay wrote:
Since a double hit is now allowed, as long as it is made with in the same motion, the question wheter it bouncesor not on the blade becomes irrelevant. How ever, I don't think this is definied as a hit. I would still hate to make this call...


Not quite, a double hit is allowed if it is unintentional. In this case I think you can say that it is intentional, so I wouldn't allow it.


Is it? To me it looks as if he tries to catch the ball with out having it to bounce, thus if it bounce and makes it adouble hit, it is unintentional. At least, this is how I see it. Either way, I think it shouldn't be allowed and the definition of a hit seems to be the best rule to use.


A simple case of unsportsmanlike behaviour, for which the umpire awards the point to the opposition :lol:

Great control though...

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speedplay wrote:
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1.No. (Not sure, if you keep a sponge with your towel, you might even be allowed to do it during the games. I know some players use their towel to clean their rubbers.)
Yes, there is no restriction on cleaning your bat. I regularly clean mine with a wet cloth and then dry it between games. Sticky rubbers like H2 keep the ball clean during the game :(
2.Yes.
Agree with Speedplay here, at least if you are playing under ITTF rules, otherwise (as in UK leagues) there is no such requirement
3.As long as you don't change the rubber from it's original state, it should be fine.
Not something I would do because you really should keep those sheets clean ready to 'freshen' the rubbers between matches, also make sure you wipe the dust off the rubbers before reattaching the sticky sheets


How do you clean your bat, when it should be left at the table? As I said, I'm not sure about this rule, and at high level play, I doubt it will ever be an issue as their venues are kpet clean, while we, lower level players, might be forced to play in very dusty enviroments.[/quote]

If you leave the table (towels, coaching, what ever) during a match you are supposed to leave the bat on the table
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just a quick one probably been asked previously but i cant remember where it it is.

stamping during serve. as this issue was brought up during a match yesterday, it jsut made me laugh how much it offended my team mate( his oponent was stamping) , as my team mate is one of the bigest stampers out there( not on the serve) but during play. it like a thunderstorm has erupted in the hall

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7.01.04 The playing hall should be large enough to accommodate at least 8 tables, in separate playing areas of at least 14m X 7m; there should be a practice hall, or a separate practice area in the main hall, with not fewer than half as many tables as in the main hall and with similar playing conditions.

This is the only thing I can find to help Speedplay. If the court is smaller than the 14 x 7 then I'd say you have a right to leave it to get to the ball. Of course there is nothing specific to say leaving that space is loss of point or let. In our club, as its dangerous and pretty much impossible to jump our fences and play a shot and come back, a ball hit out of court off the table is just loss of point.

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speedplay wrote:
14*7 court is probably the international measurments, isn't it? Here we have different measurments depending on the level, the higher the level, the bigger the court.

Would be nice to know if I'm allowed to leave my court, and if yes, can I get a let if a ball from the other court that I enter disturbs me?

Since the rules are only made for international events, I would think there is no specific rules for this, so it will be up to the umpire or referee to determine if there was interference beyond the control of the player.

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But then pros are using the international courts sizes :lol:

And not only that they are unlikely to run into anyone (on a centre court setup :lol: ), although I suppose they could on an 8 court hall (I wonder if its happened?).

I think it is a very good question, but I could find no answer in the ITTF rules to satisfy it.

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I'm not sure if this has been covered before, but this is thread is getting a bit big to search the whole thing.

1. If you throw your bat (intentional or not) and the bat hit the ball hitting a winner, do you win the point?

2. If the ball come over high, and just over the net, and then bounces back to the opponent side
- who's point is it if you don't make contact?
- can you run over to the opponent's side and hit the ball?

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speedplay wrote:
First question, 99.9% sure that you are not allowed to throw your bat, so you lose the point even if you should be able to get the ball back. The bat has to be in your hand.

Second question, the one who hits the backspin shot wins the point. If you make such a shot and see the ball return to your half of the table, if the opponent don't make contact with it, a bounce on your side is to be considered as any other second bounce, which means the ball is "dead" and you win the point.

And yes, you are allowed to run around and hit the ball from your opponents side.

Yes I also assumed this was the case for all these situations, but I could not quite find the applicable rules that confirm this...

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