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PostPosted: 03 Aug 2015, 05:07 
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Smacktooth wrote:
I played around with some settings tonight and here's what I came up with:
https://vimeo.com/134804019
Here's a picture of the settings I used, robot head height was at lowest position.
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Hope that's helpful!



This half worked. It works okay to the forehand. But I am having the "CLANG!" problem much too often to the backhand. I centered the initial calibration, which was actually very close to the center line to begin with, but the balls are not symmetrical left to right. It's proving very difficult to get any kind of ball to the BH corner. And any extreme settings (trajectory almost all the way down, or wide left/right) cause the CLANG! and fail.

I don't know if this is user error or if I have a defective robot, or some of both. I am using broken in but not old 3* Yinhe seamless poly balls, if that makes a difference.

I saw one other post early in the thread from someone who was disappointed with their Amicus. Make me the second. It does a lot of great things, but with the inconsistency and gaps in locations that I have right now, it's borderline unusable. Again, it may be me, but I have tried a lot of setting combinations and seem to have similar problems.

Wonder how the support is from Butterfly NA.

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How quickly did you have the serves shoot out? Sometimes, you need good time in between shots when some of the settings like placement vary by a wide margin. I get it with spin - if I have consecutive balls shoot with a change of say 3 levels of spin, the balls just act too weird. So I avoid quick and extreme changes between balls whenever I see problems.

Did you change the sidespin setting when shooting the ball to the left corner?

The robot has its limitations clearly. But unless there is some effort to fix them, it's still be best there is relatively speaking. Just not sure it is worth the price.

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PostPosted: 03 Aug 2015, 22:55 
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I am only trying to do a simple sidestep drill with the same kind of ball to FH and BH at 60 per minute. Is 60 too fast? I already had a fh-bh drill with no footwork. I just wanted to move the BH ball 4-6" further left, and couldn't. There's no sidespin involved as it's a hitting drill. Moving the fh ball over was easy.

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It's possibly too fast but I would recommend looking at the settings for the Prause stored drill that looks similar and modifying it.

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I just received an Amicus Pro. One thing about it seems strange and I'm trying to figure out if it's a defect or it's a "feature":

--> One of the supporting legs (those that go under the table) can be turned "in" till it hits some stopper inside the box, therefore keeping the leg at an appropriate angle to the table and assuring that the robot doesn't fall off. However the other leg freely turns 360 degrees. Why? It would seem natural that both legs should have a stopper keeping them in a symmetric and balanced position to the table.

Here's a video that perhaps better describes what's going on: https://www.dropbox.com/s/793ef7iy1d06h ... 4.MOV?dl=0

Any observations please?

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I just received my Amicus Pro and am having trouble with balls being served past the edge of the table. I called Butterfly and they had me clean the new balls being used, but this didn't help. I found that if I changed the speed and trajectory I could finally get balls to land on the table for the drills already on the unit. What if I want a faster speed though? Will I just be unable to do so? Have others had this problem? I don't know if mine is defective or if all of them need to be tinkered with a bit. I figured the preset drills would work fine once calibrated, but they haven't.

Also, Lleibman one of my support legs has more motion to it as well. I was a bit worried but my robot has stayed on the table so far.


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I had the same problems with the pre-programmed drills. In my setup they are all off the table. The rare shots that end up on the table land at really weird angles that are hardly realistic: one all the way to the left with incredible spin and the next one all the way to the right with incredible spin as well. I doubt it's a realistic exercise and I'd say when I end up in such situation in a game, I have to just utter "too good" and focus on the next point.

I ended up programming my sequences myself and that works okay. The interface leaves much to desire but it's serviceable. The self-calibration function works for the most part but it doesn't help the pre-programmed drills situation.

Lastly I spoke to Butterfly about the legs having different range of motion and received rather rude "this has nothing to do with table tennis" reply. They didn't know whether or not this is a "bug" or it's supposed to be this way.

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I just received my Amicus Pro and am having trouble with balls being served past the edge of the table. I called Butterfly and they had me clean the new balls being used, but this didn't help. I found that if I changed the speed and trajectory I could finally get balls to land on the table for the drills already on the unit. What if I want a faster speed though? Will I just be unable to do so? Have others had this problem? I don't know if mine is defective or if all of them need to be tinkered with a bit. I figured the preset drills would work fine once calibrated, but they haven't.

Also, Lleibman one of my support legs has more motion to it as well. I was a bit worried but my robot has stayed on the table so far.


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The drills are likely made for a specific feeder height, but it is not specified which. That's probably the key to keeping most of the pre-programmed drills on the table. That said. most of them are impossibly fast and undoable for normal players who do not have superhuman agility.

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The drills are likely made for a specific feeder height, but it is not specified which. That's probably the key to keeping most of the pre-programmed drills on the table. That said. most of them are impossibly fast and undoable for normal players who do not have superhuman agility.


That was my first step in trouble shooting. I tried each ring for the feeder height and they all shot off the table. It wasn't until I changed the individual settings within the pre-programmed drills that I could get a ball on the table. Frustrating when you spend the money for the Amicus and you can't just have at it with the drills. I am assuming my robot isn't defective since I can get it to do stuff, but it seems odd.


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lleibman wrote:
I had the same problems with the pre-programmed drills. In my setup they are all off the table. The rare shots that end up on the table land at really weird angles that are hardly realistic: one all the way to the left with incredible spin and the next one all the way to the right with incredible spin as well. I doubt it's a realistic exercise and I'd say when I end up in such situation in a game, I have to just utter "too good" and focus on the next point.

I ended up programming my sequences myself and that works okay. The interface leaves much to desire but it's serviceable. The self-calibration function works for the most part but it doesn't help the pre-programmed drills situation.

Lastly I spoke to Butterfly about the legs having different range of motion and received rather rude "this has nothing to do with table tennis" reply. They didn't know whether or not this is a "bug" or it's supposed to be this way.

Jon W. wrote:
I just received my Amicus Pro and am having trouble with balls being served past the edge of the table. I called Butterfly and they had me clean the new balls being used, but this didn't help. I found that if I changed the speed and trajectory I could finally get balls to land on the table for the drills already on the unit. What if I want a faster speed though? Will I just be unable to do so? Have others had this problem? I don't know if mine is defective or if all of them need to be tinkered with a bit. I figured the preset drills would work fine once calibrated, but they haven't.

Also, Lleibman one of my support legs has more motion to it as well. I was a bit worried but my robot has stayed on the table so far.


Lleibman, have you noticed if over time with breaking in the wheels a bit that the pre-programmed drills end up eventually working correctly?


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Mine didn't shoot the balls off the table - the drills were just impossible to do. But yes, there are many things about this robot that could be calibrated better, but it is still pretty good ( maybe I am just rationalizing my decision to buy).

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Yeah, I do like the robot otherwise. Interesting on the drills because mine weren't impossible other than the bad feed and I am only an intermediate player. You would think they would all be the same in the outcome but we are having different experiences and difficulties.

On a different note, I need to start playing with programming a normal serve that starts on the robot's side of the table. What settings for trajectory and speed have you all done to get a good short serve?


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Negative. I've been using the robot (Pro version) for more than a month now and the situation with the pre-programmed drills hasn't changed. For example, I just tried #99 just for kicks and the backhand lands in a very reasonable spot, while the forehand doesn't make it over the net. Calibrated, lowest possible position of the head.

I'd say, if this were to improve with the time, the robot doesn't have THAT many hours on it (maybe 30-40), so it's too early to tell, but it's not working now with a very new Amicus Pro.

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I had the same problems with the pre-programmed drills. In my setup they are all off the table. The rare shots that end up on the table land at really weird angles that are hardly realistic: one all the way to the left with incredible spin and the next one all the way to the right with incredible spin as well. I doubt it's a realistic exercise and I'd say when I end up in such situation in a game, I have to just utter "too good" and focus on the next point.

I ended up programming my sequences myself and that works okay. The interface leaves much to desire but it's serviceable. The self-calibration function works for the most part but it doesn't help the pre-programmed drills situation.

Lastly I spoke to Butterfly about the legs having different range of motion and received rather rude "this has nothing to do with table tennis" reply. They didn't know whether or not this is a "bug" or it's supposed to be this way.

Jon W. wrote:
I just received my Amicus Pro and am having trouble with balls being served past the edge of the table. I called Butterfly and they had me clean the new balls being used, but this didn't help. I found that if I changed the speed and trajectory I could finally get balls to land on the table for the drills already on the unit. What if I want a faster speed though? Will I just be unable to do so? Have others had this problem? I don't know if mine is defective or if all of them need to be tinkered with a bit. I figured the preset drills would work fine once calibrated, but they haven't.

Also, Lleibman one of my support legs has more motion to it as well. I was a bit worried but my robot has stayed on the table so far.


Lleibman, have you noticed if over time with breaking in the wheels a bit that the pre-programmed drills end up eventually working correctly?


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hi folks

got mine a few days ago! one question (sorry if this has been asked): assuming i have several saved drills...how do i swith from one drill to the next? turning the knob wont do the trick and if i turn the knob to a different drill.nr and press"memory select", nothing happens and it remains in the drill i picked first...

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