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PostPosted: 08 Apr 2014, 16:56 
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Hi all,

Probably because of my bad knee, I'm starting to get some fairly serious lower back pain - on the opposite side to my afflicted knee.

I'm going to try some lumbar support, but I don't know what to get specifically for TT.

Would something like this work, or will it be too big and restrictive? http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/p ... 268104.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Lumbar support
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Hi all,

Probably because of my bad knee, I'm starting to get some fairly serious lower back pain - on the opposite side to my afflicted knee.

I'm going to try some lumbar support, but I don't know what to get specifically for TT.

Would something like this work, or will it be too big and restrictive? http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/p ... 268104.htm

Cheers,


Sorry to hear about your back pain.
If you're sitting for prolonged periods in a chair it wouldn't help. It's good to get up every so often to loosen the back.
Swimming is good preferable front crawl. A set of exercises on core building was devised for me from my physiotherapist after a back injury.
Gel pack and a hot water bottle gives immediate relief and cuts back on the pain killers.
Looping technique requires the use of the knees otherwise it puts a strain on the back.
If my back is a little tender I just focus on the BH and keep off the FH keeping to drills with no competitive play.


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 Post subject: Re: Lumbar support
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I have lower back pain troubles too. As well, I have troubles with pain in both knees and both achillies tendons. I really can't imagine trying to play all out with a back support brace in addition to all the other braces. I have a book that saved me.Its called "Back in Shape", and I got it for a penny plus shipping from Amazon.

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I have lower back pain too. I bought a back support but always forget to wear it :oops: I don't know how much help it would be really anyway. I don't tend to get the pain from TT as much as from things like sleeping wrong in bed. TT just suffers the ill-effects after that lol.

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Table Tennis sure can cause lower back pain. Trying to counterloop or smash on forehand instead of dropping back to chop due to my bad achillies tendon pain is how I hurt my lower back. And yes, how I sit and sleepcan either help or hurt. What got me back to walking was doing stretches and exercises and not playing for a couple weeks, and then avoiding the counterlooping and forehand smashing.

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Lower back pain is terrible, I dealth with it on and off playing badminton competitively.

I think most fitness gurus and orthopedics would probably recommend stretching your legs and exercising your abs to help bolster the ailing back. Even if the lumbar support helps some, it is more of a bandaid solution. Ideally you would want to solve the problem at its root. I know you got a injured knee, that sucks :( . But I would do what you can to stretch and do ab excerises.

I have heard this proscribed many times to people with back problems. My sister being one. She herniated 2 discs in her lower back at 14 playing soccer (or football). This is was what the doctor proscribed

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dunc wrote:
Hi all,

Probably because of my bad knee, I'm starting to get some fairly serious lower back pain - on the opposite side to my afflicted knee.

I'm going to try some lumbar support, but I don't know what to get specifically for TT.

Would something like this work, or will it be too big and restrictive? http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/p ... 268104.htm

Cheers,


Sorry to hear about your back pain.
If you're sitting for prolonged periods in a chair it wouldn't help. It's good to get up every so often to loosen the back.
Swimming is good preferable front crawl. A set of exercises on core building was devised for me from my physiotherapist after a back injury.
Gel pack and a hot water bottle gives immediate relief and cuts back on the pain killers.
Looping technique requires the use of the knees otherwise it puts a strain on the back.
If my back is a little tender I just focus on the BH and keep off the FH keeping to drills with no competitive play.

Good advise here,also make sure posture is right when sitting,check if your matress is supportive enough,hot baths as recommended by my doctor and I`m mostly trouble free now

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 Post subject: Re: Lumbar support
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There may be some exercise to help strengthen the weak spot in the back as well... you'd probably have to see a physio to work out exactly what's required.

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I do sit in a chair all day but the problem, I think, occurs from the fact that - due to my slightly broken knee - I put all of my weight on my good foot when standing. And I do that... always. It's entirely subconscious now. The only way to remedy that is be more conscious when I'm standing and walking, and to build up the muscle in my bad knee so that it can bear weight more comfortably.

I bought the lumbar support that I linked in the first post and went to coaching with it on last night.

Although it isn't majorly comfortable - and it got quite sweaty - it didn't restrict my movement or playing ability at all, AND, when I came home my back was slightly better than before the session!

I don't intend to wear it permanently, and I've got a post-season break coming up soon in which I'll rest my back and avoid TT for a while, but as a "bandaid solution" it is quite effective.

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If it can keep you playing at the same level, that's a great start! You can then work on addressing the issue when you have the time! :up:

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Do get to a good physio for at least a diagnosis. In my case it is a scoliosis (curve) of the spine creating what is effectively a leg length discrepancy. Add 30 years of running and one hip is a bit worn. But physio gave a good stretching and strengthening routine, plus an orthotic in one shoe to even things out, and the world is a better place. You won't get that sort of thing spotted on the internet.

I had no private insurance but the physio was excellent in that he minimised appointments and gave me lots of work to do between appointments. Cost me about £250ish for about 7 appointments. At the start I was suffering from sciatica, couldn't sit or drive for more than 20 minutes. You wouldn't know now that I had a problem.

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haggisv wrote:
There may be some exercise to help strengthen the weak spot in the back as well... you'd probably have to see a physio to work out exactly what's required.


Link below is very similar to what the physio prescribed for me. Seems tame compared to the thread on the use of weights and the Plyometrics workout regime that alohajakeLP is doing.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-livin ... 076265?s=2


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