OOAK Table Tennis Forum


A truly International Table Tennis Community for both Defensive and Offensive styles!
Live Table Tennis Videos Table Tennis News Live OOAK Forum Links About OOAK Table Tennis Forum OOAK Forum Memory
It is currently 22 Feb 2017, 13:28


Don't want to see any advertising? Become a member and login, and you'll never see an ad again!



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: 20 Feb 2016, 02:31 
Offline
Secret Agent Double OX
Secret Agent Double OX
User avatar

Joined: 05 Oct 2007, 06:49
Posts: 10545
Location: USA
Has thanked: 267 times
Been thanked: 348 times
Blade: Tibhar CO-S-3
FH: Dr. Neubauer Leopard
BH: D.TecS SPEZIAL OX
Timo Boll: "The players themselves don't even look at the use of tuning as being wrong because they pass the current tests."

In German: http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/tischt ... -1.2869754

_________________



The MNNB Blog has had some pretty amazing stuff lately. Just click this text to check it out.
| My OOAK Interview
Table Tennis Video Links: itTV | laola1.tv | ttbl | fftt | Challenger Series | mnnb-tv

Coach Li: Kill the game against long pimps! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAHNaiIhnWM


Top
 Profile  
 

PostPosted: 20 Feb 2016, 08:28 
Offline
Bytes worse than his Bark
User avatar

Joined: 15 Sep 2011, 12:25
Posts: 838
Location: Sydney, Australia
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 102 times
Blade: OldNittaku Carbon
FH: Evolution FX-P max
BH: Tenergy 05 max
I am not sure why this is news. It is a player saying other players don't think it is wrong because they almost can't get caught. However Boll does have a good reputation and seems to be telling it as it is unfortunately.

Highlights yet again the unenforceable rules that we play the game by. :(

_________________
Retriever (sometimes golden, but often leaden)
Moderator, Inverted Retriever Technique sub-forum - http://ooakforum.com/viewforum.php?f=74


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 20 Feb 2016, 08:46 
Offline
Secret Agent Double OX
Secret Agent Double OX
User avatar

Joined: 05 Oct 2007, 06:49
Posts: 10545
Location: USA
Has thanked: 267 times
Been thanked: 348 times
Blade: Tibhar CO-S-3
FH: Dr. Neubauer Leopard
BH: D.TecS SPEZIAL OX
Boll says he and Ovtcharov brought this up quietly with the ITTF two-and-a-half years ago but nothing happened. Since they've gone public, they haven't made any friends at the ITTF, but at least there's a dialog now.

Ovtcharov says the players are skeptical about the commitment of the ITTF "because the equipment suppliers and sponsors of the ITTF are one in the same." He also says the plastic balls aren't the best quality, but they have to use them because of the sponsors.

_________________



The MNNB Blog has had some pretty amazing stuff lately. Just click this text to check it out.
| My OOAK Interview
Table Tennis Video Links: itTV | laola1.tv | ttbl | fftt | Challenger Series | mnnb-tv

Coach Li: Kill the game against long pimps! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAHNaiIhnWM


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 20 Feb 2016, 10:03 
Offline
Bytes worse than his Bark
User avatar

Joined: 15 Sep 2011, 12:25
Posts: 838
Location: Sydney, Australia
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 102 times
Blade: OldNittaku Carbon
FH: Evolution FX-P max
BH: Tenergy 05 max
Yeah, I saw the bit about the pro players not being too happy with the quality of the balls, complaining that sponsorship triumphed over quality.

I would have thought some poor schmuck would have been busy opening boxes and testing balls behind the scenes at the tournaments to ensure ball quality for the pros.

Not sure whether :) or :( or something else is appropriate, oh yeah :cash:

_________________
Retriever (sometimes golden, but often leaden)
Moderator, Inverted Retriever Technique sub-forum - http://ooakforum.com/viewforum.php?f=74


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 22 Feb 2016, 17:54 
Online
Goes to 11
Goes to 11
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2014, 20:27
Posts: 4809
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 500 times
In the old days (1980s?) the players made a show of spinning balls on the table to select the one they were going to use for the game. They don't seem to do it any more. Not sure if it was ever necessary back then, the old 38mm Nittaku and TSP 3 star balls were as good as balls could get.

As an aside - I was surprised to read that, before every major league baseball game, the groundskeeper would open up several boxes of new balls (forget how many per game, but it was in the dozens) and individually smear each one with some sort of packaged mud. The mud was harvested once a year by a company from a certain place on the banks of some river.

http://www.npr.org/2011/10/23/141563522 ... every-ball

Image



Iskandar


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 15 Sep 2016, 17:20 
Offline
New Member

Joined: 06 Sep 2016, 21:12
Posts: 42
Location: Arizona
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 1 time
Blade: Hayabusa zx
FH: H3 neo 2.15
BH: tenergy 80 2.0
I dont know much about thi magic mud but they rub the ball with some dirt(baseball fields have special dirt/clay) for grip


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 15 Sep 2016, 18:30 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 31 Jul 2016, 00:16
Posts: 586
Location: Cyberjaya, Malaysia
Has thanked: 24 times
Been thanked: 60 times
Blade: Barwell Fleet
FH: Adidas p5 max
BH: Joola Rhyzm max
Well u learn something new everyday!

_________________
Instagram: kimshiba
Currently listening to Departure soundtrack from the movie Gattaca


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 16 Sep 2016, 15:46 
Offline
New Member

Joined: 06 Sep 2016, 21:12
Posts: 42
Location: Arizona
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 1 time
Blade: Hayabusa zx
FH: H3 neo 2.15
BH: tenergy 80 2.0
Also makes the ball catch the air more making all pitches move more. You aren't allowed to scratch\cut the ball with your nail or cleats. Actually they change balls constantly in mlb so the pitchers rub them down real good with some sweat and dirty hands


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 16 Sep 2016, 16:25 
Offline
Kim Is My Shadow
Kim Is My Shadow
User avatar

Joined: 28 Jun 2008, 09:04
Posts: 1936
Location: Lancashire
Has thanked: 136 times
Been thanked: 195 times
Blade: Magic: Wand
FH: Confusion
BH: Paranoia
Why would top players want to tune/boost rubbers which manufacturers tell us are already optimised for the plastic ball, or the old celluloid ball - doesn't make sense, espeically when the top top players can pick and choose the best quality rubbers in a range ;)

_________________
Peace = Anytime I experience an emotion I value
Nominate your personal rubber name - New "OOAK LARF" out


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 16 Sep 2016, 17:06 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 31 Jul 2016, 00:16
Posts: 586
Location: Cyberjaya, Malaysia
Has thanked: 24 times
Been thanked: 60 times
Blade: Barwell Fleet
FH: Adidas p5 max
BH: Joola Rhyzm max
Surely they feel that boosted, tuned rubber is much better than the normal out of packages ones. Or maybe its more to their liking personally.

_________________
Instagram: kimshiba
Currently listening to Departure soundtrack from the movie Gattaca


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 16 Sep 2016, 20:21 
Offline
Dark Knight
Dark Knight
User avatar

Joined: 13 Dec 2006, 12:34
Posts: 30929
Location: Adelaide, AU
Has thanked: 1282 times
Been thanked: 770 times
Blade: Re-Impact Smart
FH: Victas VS > 401
BH: Dr Neubauer Viper OX
It's still quite possible that the sponsors make rubbers )for their players) that are made to be tuned. It's well known that some rubbers react to tuners much better than others, so instead of tuning the rubber for the players, they make them so that the players can choose to tune them to suit their needs.

_________________
OOAK Table Tennis Shop | Table Tennis Reviews / Articles | Table Guide | Robot Guide | Re-Impact Blades
Setup1: Re-Impact Smart, Viper OX, Victas VS 401 Setup2: Re-Impact Barath, Dtecs OX, TSP Triple Spin Chop 1.0mm Setup3: Re-Impact Dark Knight, Hellfire OX, 999 Turbo
Recent Articles: Tenergy Alternatives | Tenergy Rubbers Compared | Re-Impact User Guide | Novel way to glue OX pips


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 19 Sep 2016, 02:27 
Online
Goes to 11
Goes to 11
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2014, 20:27
Posts: 4809
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 500 times
Bars wrote:
Also makes the ball catch the air more making all pitches move more. You aren't allowed to scratch\cut the ball with your nail or cleats. Actually they change balls constantly in mlb so the pitchers rub them down real good with some sweat and dirty hands


Apparently (according to the article mentioned, or another one, or a video - I've come across several on this subject) pitchers like darker balls, batsmen like whiter ones! :lol:

Iskandar


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Copyright 2012 OOAK Table Tennis Forum. The information on this site cannot be reused without written permission.

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group




Don't forget to 'LIKE' our forum on Facebook if you enjoy the content: