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PostPosted: 30 Nov 2014, 09:16 
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Def-attack wrote:
ludo wrote:
1.0mm is probably too thin if you want to put backspin on chops.
Interesting remark about LP stroke.
A friend of mine plays with LP usually but he is well capable of chopping with SP.
Interestingly, I totally suck at chopping with LP.
I feel like I have zero control on my return (speed and spin).

First three sets played with SP. Last two wih LP. Before the match I had played for an hour with LP. No warm up before heading in to match with SP bat :) (hence the many missed chops in the first set).

I watched from 3mins onwards.. I saw you win an end but it was really messy.

What seemed to happen was the same thing that happens to me when I play with SPs vs. some opponents. With LPs I can get into a nice chopping rhythm, but with SPs - possibly because they can play attacking strokes as well as defensive strokes - you end up getting into bizarre rallies which don't really suit a defensive game. For example, I try to attack... but as a defender if you can't attack to kill (or at least cause enough disruption to kill from the next one), you shouldn't really attack... and, with SPs, the only shot that tends to kill is the smash. You also find yourself up at the table every so often, using the SPs to block... attacking players are great at playing against block because it's what they do the majority of the time, plus it means you're badly out of position and rhythm, so again it's not a great way to win a game as a defender.

In the following end you found yourself in a nice chopping rhythm and your game appeared much better and more controlled, although some of your SP chops were high and relatively low spin so your opponent was able to smash a few of them. If you keep practising SPs to keep your chops consistently low and spinny, and you tell yourself to only attack on your BH when you know you can kill, I think you'll find your SP level is just as high as LP.

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PostPosted: 30 Nov 2014, 17:24 
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Thanks Dunc. I totally agree. But to tell you the truth I am looking forward to some more attacking possibilities :). And some occasional blocking. But mostly I try SP for spin manipulation. And that I will need close to the table as well. That part of the game will require a lot more practice, more than the chopping part I think. We'll see...

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In both the videos the defender's wrist looks pretty rigid, which is IMO a cardinal sin for SP/inverted chopping. Folks can get away with this with LPs since reversal works well enough but it limits ability to chop fwd and generate spin. As mentioned above, it's like attacking backspin with upwards instead of fwd stroke (except upside down).

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