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PostPosted: 01 Oct 2013, 01:39 
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I've been offline for a week or so, so I haven't been able to kick this section off like our other new section mods have. I will be modding and administering this section myself as I volunteered just as others did for this one (given the LP equivalent was taken). Now I only use my inverted on the FH side (for the last 6 years), so I'm not the best one to ask about this. But the sections are not about the mod being the expert anyway. Its about having a place to ask questions and getting answers on the sections category, which is what the forum has always been about, these sections just make a nice container to bunch the info together better.

In the coming days I will kick off some topics here, but feel free to start one yourself if there is a burning issue, at any time.

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You have got me confused Reb , I thought I was modding this section (and inverted looping and inverted chopping).

Maybe we should have a pushing competition for the post! Just over 30 years ago I played a point with over 3400 consecutive pushes in it, for charity. And no, I didn't make the mistake! Bring it on! How's that for smack talk?

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mynamenotbob wrote:
Can you push a topspin serve?


I would say sort of. Thing is, depending upon the length of the serve and degree of spin, the shot becomes more of a chop (long) or chop block (over the table). With pimples there is a reason to play the shot that way, but with inverted you should be flicking (short) or loop/driving the ball..... for a defensive strategy look to chop the next ball.

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RebornTTEvnglist wrote:
Hi Guys,

I've been offline for a week or so, so I haven't been able to kick this section off like our other new section mods have. I will be modding and administering this section myself as I volunteered just as others did for this one (given the LP equivalent was taken). Now I only use my inverted on the FH side (for the last 6 years), so I'm not the best one to ask about this. But the sections are not about the mod being the expert anyway. Its about having a place to ask questions and getting answers on the sections category, which is what the forum has always been about, these sections just make a nice container to bunch the info together better.

In the coming days I will kick off some topics here, but feel free to start one yourself if there is a burning issue, at any time.


Please by all means Reb, do take over as I don't think I can handle the pressure! :sweat:
I'm starting to hear voices inside my head...oh it was just the tv!
I'm volunteering alot at the club as well so theres too much on my plate...think of it as I getting things warmed up for you. What the forum needs is experience and someone who can articulate - that means OOAK needs YOU!

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mynamenotbob wrote:
Can you push a topspin serve?

I would say sort of. Thing is, depending upon the length of the serve and degree of spin, the shot becomes more of a chop (long) or chop block (over the table). With pimples there is a reason to play the shot that way, but with inverted you should be flicking (short) or loop/driving the ball..... for a defensive strategy look to chop the next ball.

One of the strategies against long pips is to serve light topspin to the LPs. But if I twiddle and attack the serve with the inverted I often get into an unfavorable fast backhand-to-backhand inverted rally with no time to twiddle back. I'd rather do something that keeps it slow with underspin.

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so_devo wrote:
You have got me confused Reb , I thought I was modding this section (and inverted looping and inverted chopping).

Maybe we should have a pushing competition for the post! Just over 30 years ago I played a point with over 3400 consecutive pushes in it, for charity. And no, I didn't make the mistake! Bring it on! How's that for smack talk?


Well mate, you're welcome to it. I must have missed the bit about that, and as I saw every other section but this one had a thread, I figured it was up to me lol.

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mynamenotbob wrote:
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Can you push a topspin serve?

I would say sort of. Thing is, depending upon the length of the serve and degree of spin, the shot becomes more of a chop (long) or chop block (over the table). With pimples there is a reason to play the shot that way, but with inverted you should be flicking (short) or loop/driving the ball..... for a defensive strategy look to chop the next ball.

One of the strategies against long pips is to serve light topspin to the LPs. But if I twiddle and attack the serve with the inverted I often get into an unfavorable fast backhand-to-backhand inverted rally with no time to twiddle back. I'd rather do something that keeps it slow with underspin.


What length of serve are we talking about here?

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I played a player last week who could push/chop a topspin serve to his FH whether is was long or short. He kind of did both with a somewhat "tomohawk" style like the similarly named serve. It has pretty heavy underspin. I did not think one could be that on a short topspin serve! I sure can't.


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so_devo wrote:
What length of serve are we talking about here?

Second bounce near the end of the table of long. If I twiddle and attack I might catch them off guard the first few times, but after that I usually just get something hard coming back that I'm not prepared to deal with.

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mynamenotbob wrote:
so_devo wrote:
What length of serve are we talking about here?

Second bounce near the end of the table of long. If I twiddle and attack I might catch them off guard the first few times, but after that I usually just get something hard coming back that I'm not prepared to deal with.


If the ball is long I would twiddle and chop it with inverted (nothing special just step back 1-2 small steps, let the ball drop a bit or be even with table surface and chop). If done right no one at your level should be able to 3rd ball a winner :) Or you could step in with your FH and just shot that service back.

When the second bounce is near the end line, it is very hard to push back/chop top spin service. Although I do that from time to time with success it's not the best idea in general. I would counter that service with chop-block (but while your hand moves a bit forward too). If placed right no one should 3rd ball a winner also.

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so_devo wrote:
What length of serve are we talking about here?

Second bounce near the end of the table of long. If I twiddle and attack I might catch them off guard the first few times, but after that I usually just get something hard coming back that I'm not prepared to deal with.


These are my preferred balls for doing a very fast FH looping attack. It goes wonderfully well with Calibra LTs, certainly when the servel isn't too long. At BH, I tend to chop them back when the serve is very spinny. When serve isn't too long and spinny, it can also be attacked efficiently.

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Anybody know of any good videos where someone chops a serve like this right at the table?

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