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PostPosted: 20 Oct 2013, 10:00 
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I've been practicing adding some fast serves to my game, as I find that very few people in our top grade uses them, as and a result they can be very effective at times.

For me the fast kicking serve to their backhand often works well, as well as a flat deep serve to BH or into their body.

Who uses fast and deep serves in their game? Which is your favourite?

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PostPosted: 20 Oct 2013, 11:11 
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It's stock standard for me, either backspin or topspin. Fast serves are usually pretty deep and they've got me plenty of points to a certain level. Now, as I face tougher opponents, I'm having to develop better slow, short serves.

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Yes, I definitely think you need both, as some of the higher level players eat them for breakfast and hit winners off them. But some don't, and since they don't get many that play these at the higher level, it can really catch them off guard, and some just struggle with them.

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PostPosted: 20 Oct 2013, 12:49 
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Funny things is it always seems to come back to variation.

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I love an awkwardly placed fast and deep top spin serve, especially after rally after rally and serve after serve of chop/push. I'm a defensive player so this usually brings out a poorly planned attack or a long return.

However, I don't play at the higher levels, and when I have played really advanced players they often eat these serves for breakfast, so it's a one a game serve, after a pushing or blocking rally that I've kept the pace down in.


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Well haggisv, if you flicked a quick serve to me like you described above I'll instinctively send you back a fat juicy one so that you could smash it no problemo :lol:

Fast long serves work on guys like me still...takes about 11 points or so before I start to pull out from that.

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timeout wrote:
...takes about 11 points or so before I start to pull out from that.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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yes, but type depends on opponent.
Against attackers off both wings - most serves will be short, with about one in 5 a very fast chop serve, hopefully disguised until the last instant.
Against inverted defenders - deep heavy chop serves, mostly to bh. Occasional deep kicker.
Against LP players - deep, kicking, topspin serve, fast no spin serves.

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fast serve with the lp is a killer for a lot of players,they think there is topspin on the ball and struggle to lift them over the net.I also use a fast tomahawk type serve that kicks into the b/hand side which gives a lot of pop ups if they can`t figure out what to do

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I have a long fast no-spin serve that I pull out every now and again. The most common reaction to it is to net the return. As others have said, it is the variation from the usual short back spin, or longer topspin serve that catches people out.

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I use as a change. Works well with some opponents and if used rarely enough works well on even higher level players (ie like once a match at most).


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[quote="dazzler"]fast serve with the lp is a killer for a lot of players,they think there is topspin on the ball and struggle to lift them over the net./quote]

+1. I get a lot of cheap points from this. Bank hand topspin serve across the table to their backhand or their crossover. Then repeat but with inverted side and watch them go long.

Also do the same serve off LP down the line to their forehand, left to right topspin motion and fast. Often this is retuned a foot or so off the side of the table to allow for the side spin which isn't there.

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Fast no spin to their body or backhand works for me. I just don't do it too often. It works sometimes even against the USATT 1900-ish guys.

Problem is, I don't do it so much, so it's not so consistent :(

I try to make it look lik I am going for a normal pendulum, then I just hit it forward fast. I net these a lot for some reason :^)

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Who uses fast serves? The folks I play with do... ;)

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I often use my fast serve to the left when playing againts LP. I practically dictate the tempo after the fast serve.

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