Thanks for your additions, Baal.
My dealer is a high level player himself and he didn't really want to favour the SHA balls over the others. In his opinion, they just felt slightly different. I will probably also be able to play the Tibhar balls in our club next week, so I can compare them myself. Your explanation that they're all made in the same factory and just got a different label could be true, as this is how things go.
One thing I know is that I'm not going to spend (negative) energy to the plastic balls as long as there is no standard (if there will be one) and as long as our league still plays celluloid.
Pipsy wrote:
So I bought some Nittaku SHA 40+ made in China balls (not the premium Japan) because the seller said these played different than the other ones that I mentioned.
It's a seamed ball. Only played it for two minutes yesterday. Two things emerge:
- It is so damn hard to get the same amount of speed/spin with this ball (esp. when looping)
- The ball seems to be floating in the air so long... like playing in slow motion... which gives you (and your opponent of course) more time to react. For chopping this could be an advantage when using very grippy or short pimples. It will be easier to keep the ball on the table and there is more time to manipulate spin (but at the same time there is less spin to work with). Rallies could be longer.
More later
Pipsy wrote:
I'm going to my local shop next week and want to buy some plastic
to prepare for next season (2015-16) when our league will make the transition to the new balls
The shop only has these balls below:
- Joola Super-P***
- Donic 40+***
- Nittaku SHA 40+***
- Tibhar 40+ Syntt***
What would be best choice in terms of durability, bounce, "feeling", closest to what could be the standard? Are all seamless? Anyone who has experience with any of these balls?
Thank you
Your dealer doesn't know what he is talking about if he claims the Nittaku SHA is different from the others on your list. (That is useful information for you to know about this dealer if you buy other stuff from him in the future, he is more interested in making a sale than giving you accurate information that can be readily found). I have played with all of the ones you list. The Nittaku SHA is exactly the same as the other Chinese seamed balls on your list. They all have prominent seams, probably all are made by DHS at the same factory, differing only in the label, and they all have the properties of (1) very low bounce (biggest problem); (2) poor durability; (3) deviation from roundness, and (4) quite heavy (>2.80 grams). That is in addition to what you mentioned.
The only two plastic 40+ balls that don't have these problems are Chinese seamless balls (all made by XSF, and including Yinhe, Stag, Nexy, and some others); and the Nittaku Premium 40+ ball made in Japan.
If you can't find them at your dealer, you can buy them online. Now, all 40+ balls are a little slower and less spinny, that comes from the average of 0.5mm greater size, but it is easy to cope with that if the ball bounces properly. Among those two, the XSF balls (or balls made by them) are a bit easier to find, and a lot cheaper.