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PostPosted: 14 Aug 2015, 08:48 
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In addition to that, some people seem naturally more sensitive to equipment anyway. You're probably lucky if you're not too sensitive to equipment... you'll save money and you can stop searching for the 'holy grail' and get on with practicing and improving. :lol:

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I did some testing tonight with my regular practice partner.

The tests we did were...

Him looping vs heavy backspin serve
Him looping vs me inverted chopping on backhand
Him looping vs me chop-blocking with Curl P1-R

The results were tight. Partner, who has no bias about this test as he doesn't have any knowledge and doesn't particularly care about the new, felt like the Nittaku was easier to loop against my backspin.

I feel like the Nittaku produced less spin than the Xushaofa. I also thoroughly disliked the sound of the ball.

Can't possibly agree it's 50% less spinny though. I'd say 20% tops.

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we were in a rush today, but i managed to film a short clip playing with other polyballs (donic and joola) and then with the unreleased prototype of the new butterfly ball which i mentioned presviously. its a shame that the sound on the mobile camera mutes the shrill sound, but you can clearly see the difference in spin. first two balls are with the other balls, the next two with the new butterfly.

whilst its not as bad with the nittaku premium (at least the premium doesnt sky rocket) the principle is similar and the difference is stark enough. due to lack of spin, the ball doesnt dwell on the slick anti and bounces off immediately, which would force me to close the bat much more.

https://youtu.be/IVHi0_FdHcQ


and before weird questions are raised why one cannot see the other player, this was done purposely, for very good reasons.. 8)

i will probably remove the clip after tomorrow to avoid getting people in trouble.

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PostPosted: 15 Aug 2015, 19:18 
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Interesting, in the first few rallies you soft blocked with little forward movement of the bat. With the last rally you were going forward and at the ball more - much more aggressive/active blocking style to get the same effect. I don't know if it was the same ball you used or three different balls but your technique definitely changed.

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Interesting, in the first few rallies you soft blocked with little forward movement of the bat. With the last rally you were going forward and at the ball more - much more aggressive/active blocking style to get the same effect. I don't know if it was the same ball you used or three different balls but your technique definitely changed.


same technique :^) what you mean is the active push which isnt against the loop, but against a ball that left his hand (=no spin) at 0:18.

the ball that sky rockets at 0:16 is the exact movement as before. look closely..

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haggisv wrote:
In addition to that, some people seem naturally more sensitive to equipment anyway. You're probably lucky if you're not too sensitive to equipment... you'll save money and you can stop searching for the 'holy grail' and get on with practicing and improving. :lol:


Sums me up Alex, i change a forehand rubber and can notice big differences and then the knock on effect is what happens and the big changes to my ox lp, every bleddy time!!!!!!

I especially notice a difference using the Re-impact Hydra which i will be detailing soon!.

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Lorre wrote:

You can do everything with everything, but (1) some things are easier to do with rubber X than with rubber Y, (2) some things are different (flight trajectory, feel,...) if you compare rubber X with rubber Y and (3) some things are better with rubber X than with rubber Y, but that's only relevant when you're past a certain level. People claiming there's no difference in equipment and people who exeggarate the differences are one and the same: they are low leveled. I still need to find a low leveled player who doesn't belong in one of these two categories. And yes: I was once myself a low leveled player belonging in the category of the exeggarators.

My motto: you have a natural inclination (i;e. style), you use equipment that belongs to that style and the rest is training, training, training,...


Yes, there are differences, but the differences to me are way smaller than people make them out to be. They're so small that the rubbers are more alike than not. It may be true that it's easier to do thing A with rubber X than with rubber Y, but to me I really have to concentrate to feel any difference, and in many (most) cases I can't really tell which one IS better for doing A.

I am sure the very top players really do NEED the best they can get, even if the difference between the very top sheets and the also-ran sheets is only 1 or 2% - to them it matters. If it didn't matter, why would 90% of them be using one rubber (Tenergy) on at least one side, even when they are sponsored by some other company?

To a lot of the rest of us, this 1 or 2% doesn't mean anything.

Blades, now.. that's another story altogether. I find blades actually make me play in certain ways. For instance if I take out my Darker 7p-2a or my Stiga Allround Classic I turn into a push-block-flipper. With my N11 or Kiso 7 I'm more of a hitter and looper. So you can't say I'm totally insensitive to equipment.

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we were in a rush today, but i managed to film a short clip playing with other polyballs (donic and joola) and then with the unreleased prototype of the new butterfly ball which i mentioned presviously. its a shame that the sound on the mobile camera mutes the shrill sound, but you can clearly see the difference in spin. first two balls are with the other balls, the next two with the new butterfly.

whilst its not as bad with the nittaku premium (at least the premium doesnt sky rocket) the principle is similar and the difference is stark enough. due to lack of spin, the ball doesnt dwell on the slick anti and bounces off immediately, which would force me to close the bat much more.

https://youtu.be/IVHi0_FdHcQ


and before weird questions are raised why one cannot see the other player, this was done purposely, for very good reasons.. 8)

i will probably remove the clip after tomorrow to avoid getting people in trouble.

The video is now set to private, can't watch.

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The video is now set to private, can't watch.


see my old post:

AA wrote:

and before weird questions are raised why one cannot see the other player, this was done purposely, for very good reasons.. 8)

i will probably remove the clip after tomorrow to avoid getting people in trouble.

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Japsican wrote:
The video is now set to private, can't watch.


see my old post:

AA wrote:

and before weird questions are raised why one cannot see the other player, this was done purposely, for very good reasons.. 8)

i will probably remove the clip after tomorrow to avoid getting people in trouble.

Whoops, missed that.

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For what it's worth - today, in the space of a half hour I got no less than FOUR emails from tt-japan.net informing me that the Made-in-Japan Nittaku 40+ balls were now in stock.

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