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Author:  lasta [ 12 Jun 2019, 00:05 ]
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Hi guys,

I'm practising for an upcoming hardbat tournament but cracked 3 DHS D40+ balls during the last session. Is there a more durable ball I can practice with?

Thanks,

Author:  wilkinru [ 12 Jun 2019, 02:07 ]
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I'm not aware of a more durable ball than that.

Author:  lasta [ 12 Jun 2019, 02:24 ]
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Bugger. It's been years since I played hard bat, but don't remember celluloids cracking so easily.

Author:  GMan4911 [ 12 Jun 2019, 03:29 ]
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The rule of thumb is to practice with the tournament ball so find out what ball is being used in the tournament and practice with that regardless of durability.

Author:  igorponger [ 12 Jun 2019, 06:40 ]
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MOST DURABLE 40+ ??

hock

The ball of superior shock resilience. It would withstand many, many reiterated shots, up to 70 tonnes momentary force at full speed swings 300 km/h
The ball diameter would be very close to 40 millimeters, I believe.

Author:  Dusty054 [ 12 Jun 2019, 09:48 ]
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I found that the DHS ones split at the seam after a while. Currently using the YinHe seamless and have yet to have one crack.

Author:  haggisv [ 12 Jun 2019, 20:55 ]
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I don't remember the last time I broke a D40+, they're very durable. perhaps the OP got a bad batch?
Yes agreed, the seamless are extremely durable, that might be another option for the OP.

Author:  lasta [ 12 Jun 2019, 21:45 ]
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haggisv wrote:
I don't remember the last time I broke a D40+, they're very durable. perhaps the OP got a bad batch?
Yes agreed, the seamless are extremely durable, that might be another option for the OP.


I feel like I keep getting the shitty end of the stick. Even with regular sponged rubbers I find the D40+ not as durable as celluloid. They don't crack as obviously, but I see hairlines after 2-3 sessions max which is felt when hit in the same spot.

Author:  tzifos [ 12 Jun 2019, 23:12 ]
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lasta wrote:
haggisv wrote:
I don't remember the last time I broke a D40+, they're very durable. perhaps the OP got a bad batch?
Yes agreed, the seamless are extremely durable, that might be another option for the OP.


I feel like I keep getting the shitty end of the stick. Even with regular sponged rubbers I find the D40+ not as durable as celluloid. They don't crack as obviously, but I see hairlines after 2-3 sessions max which is felt when hit in the same spot.
There are two "generations" of D40+. The later with Ding Ning photo on the box are far more durable than the 1st generation.

Author:  lasta [ 13 Jun 2019, 00:03 ]
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tzifos wrote:
lasta wrote:
haggisv wrote:
I don't remember the last time I broke a D40+, they're very durable. perhaps the OP got a bad batch?
Yes agreed, the seamless are extremely durable, that might be another option for the OP.


I feel like I keep getting the shitty end of the stick. Even with regular sponged rubbers I find the D40+ not as durable as celluloid. They don't crack as obviously, but I see hairlines after 2-3 sessions max which is felt when hit in the same spot.
There are two "generations" of D40+. The later with Ding Ning photo on the box are far more durable than the 1st generation.


Yes, I use the Ding Ning and Ma Long World Tour balls.

Author:  iskandar taib [ 14 Jun 2019, 20:14 ]
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One wonders what they use in sandpaper tournaments...



Iskandar

Author:  so_devo [ 14 Jun 2019, 21:17 ]
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I find the Ding Ning D40+ balls virtually bulletproof. Rarely break one.
All of the seamed balls are very vulnerable to a top edge causing a crack.

Author:  ootbs [ 03 Jul 2019, 20:16 ]
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The D40s are indeed very durable... However, I find that as they get more played-in with, they tend to lose bounce, and they turn off-white'ish ....

Author:  mart1nandersson [ 05 Jul 2019, 07:00 ]
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lasta wrote:
haggisv wrote:
I don't remember the last time I broke a D40+, they're very durable. perhaps the OP got a bad batch?
Yes agreed, the seamless are extremely durable, that might be another option for the OP.


I feel like I keep getting the shitty end of the stick. Even with regular sponged rubbers I find the D40+ not as durable as celluloid. They don't crack as obviously, but I see hairlines after 2-3 sessions max which is felt when hit in the same spot.


This is the case of all D40+ balls and other DHS OEM manufactured balls like the Stiga Perform, Yinhe etc. The hairline "fractures" appears after a few HARD smashes and become quite unpredictable. I would prefer if the balls actually completely cracked so that you could trust that they're predictable.

Author:  nathanso [ 05 Jul 2019, 15:05 ]
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Nittaku 2-stars are more durable than Nittaku 3-stars in my experience. A top quality ball that plays every bit as good as the Nittaku 2-star is the Nittaku Japan Star (aka J-star). These are my main ball for training and league play unless someone objects and then I dig into my (smaller) supply of Nittaku 3-star balls.

Nittaku 3-star: $2.83/ball*
Nittaku 2-star: $2.08/ball*
Nittaku J-star: $1.20/ball**

*One dozen
**Two dozen

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