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PostPosted: 03 Feb 2019, 17:34 
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I'm a decent table tennis player and my style is primarily chop and loop. I can loop with both forehand and backhand. I had a relative who lived in UK and he gifted me an Eastfield Offensive Pro bat

https://www.experttabletennis.com/eastfield-offensive-review/

It's really a hard bat for me to control, everything bounces off, pushes and chops are very difficult for me. It is fast but I want the control back.

I used to play with a cheap GKI Kung Fu bat(not sure if they are sold outside India) and I've also experimented with Friendship 729 + Sanwei M8 combo. I've also played with Xiom Vega Pro. But after using one of my friends' Yasaka Mark V setup, I'm convinced that Mark V is the best choice for me(I prefer control over speed or spin), I'm told that Rakza 7 is the next level for Mark V users.

So I'm thinking of Rakza 7 for FH and Mark V for BH. Both these rubbers will cost serious money for me, so I'm thinking of using the Eastfield Offensive Pro blade for both these rubbers. Will this blade ruin the rubbers too? Or will this be an ideal setup for me? The blade description from the manufacturer is,

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Eastfield Offensive - Ashwood BladeThe Eastfield Ashwood 7-ply blade offers exceptional feeling and feedback. It’s called ‘Ashwood’ because ash is the hardwood that makes up the outer layer of the blade.

It’s a 7-ply all-wood blade without any carbon layers. This makes it fast but not crazy fast. You can go for big loops without the fear of blasting everything off the end of the table!

And using all-wood blades is a great way to improve your overall feeling and control of the ball – something that can be hard to develop with super-fast carbon blades.

If you’re looking to buy an absolute rocket of a blade then the Eastfield Ashwood probably isn’t for you. But if you want a fast blade that will work for the majority of intermediate and advanced attacking players, then this could be perfect!

It also has a very comfortable rounded flared handle. It feels great in my hand and allows me to hold it very loosely – which is good for my relaxed shakehands grip.

If you like, you can buy an Eastfield Ashwood blade on its own for £50 ($60).


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PostPosted: 03 Feb 2019, 17:45 
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Sanwei M8 should be okay to reuse if u still have it. Just get MarkV on both sides until you can confidently loop and smash. Once you built up enough speed and spin,.you should then try one side Rakza7. Some ppl find Rakza7 soft gives very good touch.and spin. Others and including myself find Rakza7 the best. TT rubbers and blade work in combo. So personally i find hard blade+hard rubbers work well and soft blade+soft rubbers work well.

YMMV.

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Backup C-pen blades:
  • TSP Black Balsa 7.0 :
    1. FH/BH-729OEM/729SuperFX
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  • 729 Bomb : FH/BH-YRD/T5QS
  • DHS PowerG-9 : FH/BH-729SuperFX
  • Stag Balsa Koto : FH/BH-YRD/YR9
Fun blades:
  • Yasaka Battle Balsa(ST) : FH/BH-YSD
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PostPosted: 03 Feb 2019, 18:09 
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man_iii wrote:
Sanwei M8 should be okay to reuse if u still have it. Just get MarkV on both sides until you can confidently loop and smash. Once you built up enough speed and spin,.you should then try one side Rakza7. Some ppl find Rakza7 soft gives very good touch.and spin. Others and including myself find Rakza7 the best. TT rubbers and blade work in combo. So personally i find hard blade+hard rubbers work well and soft blade+soft rubbers work well.

YMMV.

My Sanwei M8 has gotten quite old and edges are coming off already as I've collided with the edge of the TT board a few times. So you don't think Eastfield won't work well with Mark V? Why I'm asking is I'm not sure whether Eastfield is soft or hard from the description given by the manufacturer, does ashwood mean it's hard?


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PostPosted: 04 Feb 2019, 00:13 
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ooak1102 wrote:
man_iii wrote:
Sanwei M8 should be okay to reuse if u still have it. Just get MarkV on both sides until you can confidently loop and smash. Once you built up enough speed and spin,.you should then try one side Rakza7. Some ppl find Rakza7 soft gives very good touch.and spin. Others and including myself find Rakza7 the best. TT rubbers and blade work in combo. So personally i find hard blade+hard rubbers work well and soft blade+soft rubbers work well.

YMMV.

My Sanwei M8 has gotten quite old and edges are coming off already as I've collided with the edge of the TT board a few times. So you don't think Eastfield won't work well with Mark V? Why I'm asking is I'm not sure whether Eastfield is soft or hard from the description given by the manufacturer, does ashwood mean it's hard?


There is a lot of "science" and "feel" related to how blades work and how their ratings or properties are determined.

Here is how I categorize different blade types.

1. Hard top-ply, softer inner cores, all wood. <--- medium flex, most all-round play, 2wing loopers.

2. Medium or soft top-ply, soft inner cores, all wood. . <--- extra flex, most loop, somewhat all-round play, more defense/passive.

3. Hard or medium top-ply, mid or hard cores, all wood or composite. <--- max feel ( crisp feeling )

4. Special wood , special composite. <---- min flex, no vibration, min feel , hard hit/loop/max power. Too many variations many varieties, many styles, not easy to judge which blade is suitable.


I found the review of your blade
https://www.experttabletennis.com/eastf ... ve-review/

There is no mention on the inner composition of the blade.

All I can tell is that the Top-ply ashwood is supposed to be hard.

I would say go with MarkV on both sides for now. This blade may be uncontrollable, even though the reviewer says it will be good for 6 months + club player.

Again, I would take any reviews with a pinch of salt. Reviewer is giving advice for a high-level club player developing their game at a district, state or maybe even national level.

Personally, I would "fix" up the M8 or buy a very very very cheap Yinhe N-9 or N-10 or N-11.

If you go for Yinhe, there are pre-mades from Yinhe which work out to be cheaper with rubbers like Earth or Moon or Mercury etc.

Again, I don't know how good you are, if you play at a state-level club or have dedicated coaching from a nationally or international coach, etc. So here be dragons :lol: :-D YMMV!

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Backup C-pen blades:
  • TSP Black Balsa 7.0 :
    1. FH/BH-729OEM/729SuperFX
    2. FH/BH-STN
  • 729 Bomb : FH/BH-YRD/T5QS
  • DHS PowerG-9 : FH/BH-729SuperFX
  • Stag Balsa Koto : FH/BH-YRD/YR9
Fun blades:
  • Yasaka Battle Balsa(ST) : FH/BH-YSD
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PostPosted: 04 Feb 2019, 03:38 
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Get another one... Price is down to $6.50 including shipping! :lol: (Or get two.. the price drops to $5.85 each for two or more.)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SANWEI- ... 84830.html

If it's control you want, the M8 should be the ticket.

Problem is... Tuesday is the first day of the Year of the Hog, so it might take a little longer than normal to get it.. :lol:

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PostPosted: 06 Feb 2019, 20:49 
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iskandar taib wrote:
Get another one... Price is down to $6.50 including shipping! :lol: (Or get two.. the price drops to $5.85 each for two or more.)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SANWEI- ... 84830.html

If it's control you want, the M8 should be the ticket.

Problem is... Tuesday is the first day of the Year of the Hog, so it might take a little longer than normal to get it.. :lol:

Iskandar

I have one question, when I push with Yasaka Mark V, i feel very comfortable and I can impart good backspin, but if I play the same stroke with Friendship 729(on a Sanwei M8), the ball shoots up. Is this the difference between chinese rubbers and japanese/euro rubbers? Is Sanwei T-88 similar to Friendship 729 or Yasaka Mark V?


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Since I've not played with Mark V, I can't say for certain why your pushes with 729 pop up. 729 would have harder sponge than Mark V, that might be the reason. I don't have that problem, and I play with all sorts of different rubbers (currently have Rakza 7 and 61s Kangaroo, my previous setup was Palio AK47 and Yinhe 9000). T88 should be more like 729 than to Mark V.

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PostPosted: 15 Feb 2019, 15:12 
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ooak1102 wrote:
iskandar taib wrote:
Get another one... Price is down to $6.50 including shipping! :lol: (Or get two.. the price drops to $5.85 each for two or more.)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SANWEI- ... 84830.html

If it's control you want, the M8 should be the ticket.

Problem is... Tuesday is the first day of the Year of the Hog, so it might take a little longer than normal to get it.. :lol:

Iskandar

I have one question, when I push with Yasaka Mark V, i feel very comfortable and I can impart good backspin, but if I play the same stroke with Friendship 729(on a Sanwei M8), the ball shoots up. Is this the difference between chinese rubbers and japanese/euro rubbers? Is Sanwei T-88 similar to Friendship 729 or Yasaka Mark V?
729 has lots of rubbers. I dunno which one u tried.

MarkV is very good quality high control rubber.

If u can play with MarkV, 729 OEM might not just work without adjustment. 729 OEM is low throw... meaning... If u push incoming underspin or chop ball the return from your rubber will tend to dip down lower. Same way if u topspin to topspin, the arc will get flatter. So your description is very poor. Did u push a topspin ball??? No-spin ball? Against pips-out player?

Also use MarkV don't bother with 729 rubber. :lol:

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Backup C-pen blades:
  • TSP Black Balsa 7.0 :
    1. FH/BH-729OEM/729SuperFX
    2. FH/BH-STN
  • 729 Bomb : FH/BH-YRD/T5QS
  • DHS PowerG-9 : FH/BH-729SuperFX
  • Stag Balsa Koto : FH/BH-YRD/YR9
Fun blades:
  • Yasaka Battle Balsa(ST) : FH/BH-YSD
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iskandar taib wrote:
Since I've not played with Mark V, I can't say for certain why your pushes with 729 pop up. 729 would have harder sponge than Mark V, that might be the reason. I don't have that problem, and I play with all sorts of different rubbers (currently have Rakza 7 and 61s Kangaroo, my previous setup was Palio AK47 and Yinhe 9000). T88 should be more like 729 than to Mark V.

Iskandar
Hi Iskandar
I got 2-for-1 Yinhe 9000s in clear vacuum packaging. Any advice? Do I boost? Is it fast? Controlled? Spinny? Compared to H3 or 729 OEM? Tacky? I haven't opened it yet :lol:

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Backup C-pen blades:
  • TSP Black Balsa 7.0 :
    1. FH/BH-729OEM/729SuperFX
    2. FH/BH-STN
  • 729 Bomb : FH/BH-YRD/T5QS
  • DHS PowerG-9 : FH/BH-729SuperFX
  • Stag Balsa Koto : FH/BH-YRD/YR9
Fun blades:
  • Yasaka Battle Balsa(ST) : FH/BH-YSD
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