OOAK Table Tennis Forum

Stick with one and adjust technique . Mastering something has its own advantages and contributes to overall satisfaction.

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USATT: 1807 | League: 1887

Here.. updated for you. This is IMHO of course but I am now a strong believer that technique doesn't need to change much when you go from rubber to rubber assuming the same rubber type LP to LP, not LP to Anti. Joo himself said in an interview he used to switch between P1r and Dtecs on game day (crazy right?) depending on the table used. This is similar to how you would play with some Tenergy and then switch to Rasanter and believe me the looping technique should be 99% the same. I also recently read about Marcus Freitas (not a chopper but world class) who used to switch constantly between T05 and MXP depending on the rubber batches he would get (he always looked for the hardest sponge)

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Attackers: "All pips players are cheaters who can't loop, move, or read spin"
Me: I beg your pardon?

That's probably semantics, but I also observe that I can't switch from 1mm P4 on VKMO to OX Dtecs on Defplay (or vice versa) and do as well. I guess Joo can, so props to him .

Perhaps chopping differences are smaller (?), close to the table feels very different. I don't know...

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USATT: 1807 | League: 1887

Ox and 1mm are two different beasts... no question about it. Joo didn't go from 1.5 down to OX. I was talking more of say P1R 1mm vs Joola Octopus 1mm vs another LP 1mm. You wouldn't push any different with say Octopus 1.0 than you do with Dtecs 0.9. YMMV but that's been my observation.

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Attackers: "All pips players are cheaters who can't loop, move, or read spin"
Me: I beg your pardon?

The other constant that I'm guessing is the blade. I would think Joo would have the same blade regardless of rubber, which would also help to transition from one to the other.

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"The greatest teacher, failure is"
USATT Rating: 1725
Blade: Stiga Cybershape Carbon
FH Rubber: Butterfly Tenergy 19 2.1
BH Rubber: Dr Neubauer ABS3 1.5

agreed , I’m just not sold on the DefPlay , it was great when I 1st started using LP, nowadays it’s the FH that wins my points, the Joo give me that , so back to the Joo with Dtecs

Had another night with the DefPlay combo, it’s just to slow and the FH just doesn’t have enough, I have two joo blades one being like 92-93 grams which is slower and lighter then my regular joo, I put the rubbers on that and I’m like wow , the FH is great , and .9mm on that was great , LP is fast and low on all chops , can believe that a bit slower same blade made that much different

As someone was saying above... stick with your normal blade .. this is the best way to evaluate a brand new LP rubber since you only have 1 variable not 2.

Just curious, assuming you are familiar with P1r 0.5 on the Joo... can you do some comparison in terms of spin, speed, grip, etc.

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Attackers: "All pips players are cheaters who can't loop, move, or read spin"
Me: I beg your pardon?

I have also returned to Defplay now and then, but it's FH way too slow for me. Same fate with other slower def blades that I have...

Well been using that setup for about 3-4 years, I still think it gets the best underspin for chopping away from the table , speed is faster then most but slower than Dtecs, the grip is nice when it’s new, it hits well in .5 mm , but chops great in 1mm , so depending on how big the playing area , I switch between the two.