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PostPosted: 15 Jul 2007, 12:58 
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If you need to practice your reactions and strokes against the wobbles, dips and deception that Long Pips can produce and neither you or your partner play with them, you can simulate what a frictionless Long Pip can do by leaving your proctective sheet on your inverted rubber and playing with it that way. I ran across this by accident when I turned on my robot to practice BH pushes and forgot to take the sheet off. When the 1st shot came off I thought my paddle was broke. It may save you some money if you were thinking of buying a LP sheet just to practice against.

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Would this be any different from a hardbat?

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I guess it would depend on the type of rubber on the Hardbat. Do you have a specific example in mind? It just seems to nicely simulate a ball effect that I have seen LP's produce.

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Err, really old hardbat, I would really say that it'll be OX with frictionless short pips.

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I guess my best advise is just to put some protective plastic on a sheet of inverted and try it out. I would suspect that a softer sponge under the inverted would give more LP effect and a harder sponge with a thicker topsheet would act more like anti. I was using 729 FX-EL with 38 deg. 2.2 reactor sponge with the protective sheet on.

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I guess it would simulate the spin reversal, but no other effects. Most inverted rubbers tend to feel a little springy too, whereas most LP rubber don't.

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Agree - its a good idea but only has limited value. It might have some limited value in simulating some (but not all) short pips - but not long pips they bend during the stroke.

Its cheap to buy a chinese long pip and put it on a chinese blade, go OX if you want to max spin reversal

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