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I played a while with Globe 999 on backhand and I noticed difficulties in game (especially when I am returning serves) because a tacky rubber is very sensitive to incoming spin. I switch to a nontacky and I feel a lot better. On forehand I feel better with tacky .

I noticed that many asian players are using the same setup . Are they feel the same as me (or me like them ) or is just for the racket to be lighter?

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Xiom Strato , St
FH: DHS H3 prov, max
BH: Butterfly Tenergy 05FX, max

Most chinese players do large swing FH loops with a compact BH hit or loop.
Sticky rubbers generally work better with a long, fast swing.

There are exceptions, of course. Wang nan uses H3 or something on BH, similarly Tie Yana does as well.

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Chasse Patate

Yes , this is a good point too : large swing vs compact swing ..

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Xiom Strato , St
FH: DHS H3 prov, max
BH: Butterfly Tenergy 05FX, max

Ugh. I'm on the reverse side of this thread. I'm using a tacky BH with a grippy FH.

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Viscaria. H2 Neo 2.15. Tenergy 05 1.9.

Here of late I have been considering moving to a less tacky backhand rubber, but not because of serve return. I have very little trouble reading the spins of serves. My trouble is blocking on the backhand side to incoming loops. When that heavy topspin comes into my backhand I have a tendancy to send the balls long on the block. Do you guys think that a less tacky rubber would help me on that part? I know I have to close my blade face quite a bit over the ball off of heavy loops, but with tacky rubbers it seems that it's a very thin margin for error on the block because of how thin the hitting surface area is at that angle. What do you guys think?

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Photino
My rubbers are 9 years old. They won’t be there long.

I would say stick with it and learn to deal with the incoming spin. you'll be better off in the long run.

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Chasse Patate

In addition to what Silver said, I think it would be possible for you to take the ball earlier due to the heavy topspin.

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Viscaria. H2 Neo 2.15. Tenergy 05 1.9.

I have always been a believer of the opposite........Non tacky rubbers which create spin with a mechanical motion get more spin from a larger swing to let the ball sink into the topsheet and sponge. Tacky rubbers are better suited for a smaller, more compact swing because the tack creates the spin, not necessarily the actual motion. Often times people who favor a style closer to the table prefer a Chinese tacky rubber and a more mid-distance player who has a little more time and room for a big swing would choose a Euro/Jap grippy rubber. I personally play with a tacky FH and a more Euro BH.

pongcrazy

I reckon it doesn't matter what you have on the fh and bh

chinese or euro, as long as the rubbers aren't the same

that way your opponent won't get used to your rythem,
and your always giving him something different.

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the re-evolution of war
Bty Gergely Palio Macro Era 42.5 Max DHS H2 Max

That's a bit drastic.
Your thinking is flawed, as your FH is different to your BH anyway.

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Chasse Patate

Uhhh.......What?
Choose rubber which makes your strokes consistent and compliments your style of play. Not something that you think will confuse your opponent. You may end up just confusing yourself. And as Silver said: it doesn't matter what type is on your FH or BH, unless you twiddle your paddle every other shot, your opponent will see the same ball from each stroke.

pongcrazy

I found that with small movements, a sticky rubber can be detrimental as the stick can actually slow down spin. Further more, because of the typically hard sponge and stick, a faster arm motion is required to get a similar amount of speed out of the shot, compared to a typically bouncier japanese rubber. I feel this can be seen with most current chinese players using (for example) H3 on their FH and sriver or similar on BH. Their FH tends towards a long sweep and a more compact BH. Conversely, you can see that with a grippy japanese rubber, more compact shots work out (eg, Boll).

From a physics point of view, the longer arm sweep has compared to a compact loop a) higher acceleration (due to the upper arm working more) and b) higher velocity, even though the angular velocity is the same.

As for short movements, yes, I believe that before the reign of the loopers the Chinese used to do smaller faster hit movements with sticky rubber. Once they changed over to looping, you see the typical long sweep loop take over.

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Chasse Patate