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If you want feedback from a great blocking and countering rubber that's insensitive to incoming spin look no further than the new Tuttle Beijing 4. Available at FastPaddle.com. I'm testing it now.

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BBC CarboFlex DURO, Donic Acuda S1 Turbo, KTL Stranger Attack 1.2mm

Thank you for feedback !

I think it's too hard to chose without testing the rubber once, I'm french and am not used to describe my play in english, to sum up, if I had to chose 3 qualities, I'm looking for (in order of priority) :

1 : Speed
2 : Dynamic rubber (ability to speed up the ball using the opponent spin)
3 : Being able to drive top spin on lightly back spinned balls

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Blade : Butterfly kiso hinoki V AN
Forehand : Xiom vega pro
Backhand : Xiom vega europe

Just to say, just picked up 2 palio blitz rubbers 47 deg, max thickness at ttnpp, I'll try them on a joola MC1 blade when it arrives, of course I'll leave my feedback here

Cheers

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Blade : Butterfly kiso hinoki V AN
Forehand : Xiom vega pro
Backhand : Xiom vega europe

are both of them 47deg?

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Main: / secondary / LP
Blade: DHS Hurricane hao/ Blade- Ross Leidy Gauss/ Stiga Clipper
FH: Skyline 3(Blue Sponge)/ FH- Galaxy Sun/ Hurricane 3
BH: 729-Focus 3 Snipe/ BH- DHS Memo 3/ Cloud and Fog 3

Yes, I like to play the same rubber on both sides, after many readings I've decided on the 47 version, also I'm currently playing LKT rapid speed rubber, wich is an even harder rubber than the blitz, so the difference would have been too big with the 42 deg version

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Blade : Butterfly kiso hinoki V AN
Forehand : Xiom vega pro
Backhand : Xiom vega europe

just thinking it would have been a perfect review as you have the two different hardness on the same blade which would be much easier to compare the two of them

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my youtube channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/decoyla?feature=mhum

Main: / secondary / LP
Blade: DHS Hurricane hao/ Blade- Ross Leidy Gauss/ Stiga Clipper
FH: Skyline 3(Blue Sponge)/ FH- Galaxy Sun/ Hurricane 3
BH: 729-Focus 3 Snipe/ BH- DHS Memo 3/ Cloud and Fog 3

You're right... however I can't afford buying just for testing purpose chinese rubbers are not well known here in France, I could hardly sell it to anyone

I had my LKT rapid speed for just €12 each and a reactor DJ600 carbon blade for just 18€ so it's a cheap setup, however very effective for fast playing, flat hitting, blocking, but it's hard to start top spin attacks on back spinned balls, especially in the BH, also the rapid speed does not feel very "dynamic", sometimes the ball seems to "slip" on the top sheet

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Blade : Butterfly kiso hinoki V AN
Forehand : Xiom vega pro
Backhand : Xiom vega europe

tell them its german .. which it is kinda

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my youtube channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/decoyla?feature=mhum

Main: / secondary / LP
Blade: DHS Hurricane hao/ Blade- Ross Leidy Gauss/ Stiga Clipper
FH: Skyline 3(Blue Sponge)/ FH- Galaxy Sun/ Hurricane 3
BH: 729-Focus 3 Snipe/ BH- DHS Memo 3/ Cloud and Fog 3

I found this review comparing the two rubbers

http://www.ttsport.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=10914

It's russian but you may translate it using google translate or some other tool

It basically recommend to use blitz 42 for the Fh and 47,5 on the BH

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Blade : Butterfly kiso hinoki V AN
Forehand : Xiom vega pro
Backhand : Xiom vega europe

I currently use 47.5 on my FH and 42 on my BH however next time I change I will be using 42 both sides. The 42 is very soft but quite nice for looping. For AUD$28 it's very good value. The 47.5 is harder but IMO not quite as lively as the 42.

I've never experienced 'thrill' from my racket but I have experienced a thrill from strokes I have executed well. If you want to improve your loop against backspin perhaps ditch the hard carbon blade and try a softer/slower blade with a greater dwell time?

Thank you carbonman, I no have the joola MC1 to get rid of the carbon blade

As for the rubbers, 47,5 deg version are already on their way, can't change right now, hope I'll like them, anyway it will certainly be an improvement over the lkt rapid speed I currently play

Cheers

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Blade : Butterfly kiso hinoki V AN
Forehand : Xiom vega pro
Backhand : Xiom vega europe

Received my palio 47,5 in 2.2 mm and played with it for about 3 weeks

I have to say I'm disappointed...

It has less control than my LKT rapid speed, it's also significantly heavier and... the price is 3 times higher...
I have tried it both on a carbon blade and a Joola MC1, it performed better on the Joola (wich has more flex) but still there is no way to justify the price...
I think I'll stay away from expensive rubbers from now on.

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Blade : Butterfly kiso hinoki V AN
Forehand : Xiom vega pro
Backhand : Xiom vega europe

The 47.5 is a pretty standard Japanese style inverted rubber (the 42 is somewhat livelier IMO but still not very difficult to handle). I don't understand how you can have control issues with it. The fast blades you use would cause you to have far greater control problems than the rubber. If I were you I would consider getting a slower blade and working on your ball-control.

Palio Blitz is about 1/3 the price of Tenergy and about 1/2 the price of most other top shelf rubbers. As such it is reasonable value. If however you can play well with a cheaper rubber such as LKT rapid speed then that is great. Go for it!

It's not that cheap it's almost online with the price of other rubbers, aside from Tenergy

I'll try the 42 version IF I have the occasion to do so without buying it first, maybe the 47.5 version just doesn't suit my play but what I'm basically saying is that in real world it got to be a great difference in quality between a $28 product and a $12 product to let you pick the first, especially if you have to pick at least two, just like car tyres, so far I'm not finding big differences between these two products :

Foam is hard on both of them, top rubber is a quality one, and still I play better with the cheaper one, I haven't been paid by LKT to do their publicity, I have many other brands at home at home, (yasaka, stiga, tibhar, donic, reactor, joola) I had stopped TT for 8 years, and now I'm back at 35 years

Still decent level (I have around 1000 points in the french ranking level) but I now think that a word of wisdom for players who just wants to enjoy playing table tennis is to stop trying to decipher equipment reviews to pick the best combination possible and to stick with the first combination they are comfortable with, as they are likely not to find MUCH better, unless they spend a lot of money trying almost every rubber out there, unless off course you have a very high level and the slightest detail is of importance for you, but then again if you're in that case I guess that you'll be able to try what you want for free

Cheers

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Blade : Butterfly kiso hinoki V AN
Forehand : Xiom vega pro
Backhand : Xiom vega europe

I pretty much agree with you Aturion. Some of the cheaper Chinese rubbers are fantastic value and if you play well with them then why pay more.

Whilst I prefer the 42 to the 47.5 I don't think the 42 is particularly earth shattering either - it's just decent value compared to most other mainstream Japanese style rubbers (which tend to be around $50-$60 here). Within reason I think I would be happy using any one of the many rubbers on the market - it's just a matter of making slight adjustments.