Thinking about it some more, they don't seem to ever do a "push" in response to backspin, but they have played so long and had to overcome backspin in a natural way for them that they naturally overcome the backspin with a little forehand flick type motion, sending back a largely no spin ball. I had just drilled in a series of moves to defeat a classic basic inverted player (who responds with a push with a backspin serve) and I was totally thrown off by them not doing as I expected. To describe their style you could also say they are very experienced and very good recreational players. They take pride in saying they don't take it seriously and go along for some fun as a group and have slowly worked themselves over the years from C grade into A3/4. On reflection I think most of their shots are no-spin shots so they also don't have anything to worry about with my pips.
So it seems I have to drill against no-spin balls. Might have to bring the robot out and drill first and then if you can try to play against me like a recreational player, Oskar, I might gain some skills to defeat them next time!
When you give someone a topspin deep and they "kill" the spin, the ball will mostly come back long. Problem is, that ball does not "kick" and bounce towards you deeper. It will bounce and NOT come at you. If you are expecting a topspin that kicks, you will be too deep to make a quality shot or have to greatly slow down your shot. I would recommend that when your tennis player makes one of these shots, you start to move forward after he/she hits it. You will be in a better position to make a sucessful attack and will be able to read the spin better. As suggested earlier, try making some of your attacks to his/her BH corner.
Another thing you can do is make a half solid contact, half grazing contact with a slight lifting stroke. Use your whole body. Be in Position. Go for heavy spin and depth near the endline. Do NOT use max power, simply use half power or a little moar. That is all the power you need. Trying for max power on that ball will get you in trouble spraying it everywhere. Guarentee that you will trouble many opponets with that shot that lands deep with heavy spin, even if it is not a very fast shot. It is difficult to block and difficult to time a counter-attack.
Another suggestion is to attack with BH some moar. BH backswing is usually short and it is easy to confuse opponet on direction of shot. It is also a quick shot and there is little racket preparation. Do your BH and step around to use your FH. Get used to doing this and you will be able to finish moar points.
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