OOAK Table Tennis Forum


A truly International Table Tennis Community for both Defensive and Offensive styles!
OOAK Forum Links About OOAK Table Tennis Forum OOAK Forum Memory
It is currently 19 Apr 2024, 00:43


Don't want to see any advertising? Become a member and login, and you'll never see an ad again!



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 63 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: 22 Jul 2014, 14:09 
Offline
Goes to 11
Goes to 11
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2014, 20:27
Posts: 10686
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 1385 times
This last weekend, I bought a couple of USD1.80 hardbats at the local Tesco ("Concord" brand). Hard rubber came off the blades, no problem. Took a minute a side, little glue residue. Gave them a light sanding, a light coat of poly-U, and then I noticed it. The blades are WARPED!! It's not much - I think I'll put a couple sheets of Boll Warheads on one of them and see if they're playable. The blades were quite thin - maybe 4.5mm. And they're actually flexible (unlike some "flexible" blades mentioned here..). If they don't play well I'll just strip the rubber off and put them on other blades (I also have one from Daiso).

Iskandar


Top
 Profile  
 


PostPosted: 22 Jul 2014, 15:27 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 14 Aug 2012, 23:08
Posts: 236
Location: Vanuatu
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 14 times
Blade: Nittaku Flyatt Carbon Pro
FH: Tibhar Aurus TC-1
BH: 729 802 2.1mm
iskandar taib wrote:
This last weekend, I bought a couple of USD1.80 hardbats at the local Tesco ("Concord" brand). Hard rubber came off the blades, no problem. Took a minute a side, little glue residue. Gave them a light sanding, a light coat of poly-U, and then I noticed it. The blades are WARPED!! It's not much - I think I'll put a couple sheets of Boll Warheads on one of them and see if they're playable. The blades were quite thin - maybe 4.5mm. And they're actually flexible (unlike some "flexible" blades mentioned here..). If they don't play well I'll just strip the rubber off and put them on other blades (I also have one from Daiso).

Iskandar

Hahaha. Concorde.I know that:D:D

_________________
Still Missing the Speed Glue


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 22 Jul 2014, 17:44 
Offline
Roar Talent
Roar Talent
User avatar

Joined: 03 Mar 2011, 17:59
Posts: 1519
Location: Philippines
Has thanked: 21 times
Been thanked: 43 times
Blade: Tiago Apolonia ZLC
FH: Rhyzer 50
BH: Donic Acuda Blue P3
When I was young ( btw em still young :lol: ) my racket is an Addoy pre made. I believe the quality of premade before was better compared today. I learned to loop very hard using addoy and smashed with it since I have no choice back then. I guess familiarity with your set up even if it is cheap is a big factor.

_________________
Enjoy the game. It is a never ending learning experience once you play and keep the ball on that 45 sq ft of space or should I say half of that space.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 22 Jul 2014, 17:58 
Offline
Goes to 11
Goes to 11
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2014, 20:27
Posts: 10686
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 1385 times
These are destined to be loaner or gift bats (if they work). I don't intend to make them my primary equipment (unless, of course, they turn out to play better than what I use now!).

Iskandar


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 22 Jul 2014, 21:12 
Offline
CTRL_ALT_Loop
CTRL_ALT_Loop
User avatar

Joined: 28 Nov 2011, 08:20
Posts: 1657
Location: Egersund, Norway
Has thanked: 242 times
Been thanked: 265 times
iskandar taib wrote:
Der_Echte wrote:
I recently went to Walmart to get 4 each $3.50 USD bats with OX SP. I peeled off the SP rubber surprisingly easily, took 10 minutes per side to get rid of glue (usually takes hours) and slapped on old sheets of XP 2008, whatever I had handy, or a new sheet of XP 2008 or 999. I made 4 bats at a cost of $4, $12, $15, and $18 per bat. These ended up being ALL- to ALL speed control setups perfect for a dude wanting to step up to a real bat. 4 Soldeirs now have their own bat to bring to the USO for lunchtime TT battles. They are proud of their own bats now.


I'm in the middle of stripping a cheap bat (friend of mine brought it over, wants me to put rubber on it), and I'm wondering if you have some hints or tricks for removing the sponge. I've been at it a couple of hours already but there's still a fair amount of sponge left.

Iskandar

A bit late to help you, perhaps, but I saw a tip from someone else here to use a drill bit on the side. I can't find the posting right now...

I tried it a couple of days ago, and it was surprisingly fast. Still some elbow grease involved, but stubborn sponge was removed in 10 minutes (would have taken 3-4 times as long with my old method using a steel wire brush).

Use a spiral drill bit for metal or wood, 8mm or larger (~3/8"), and a "planing" motion. Those drill bits have a cutting edge all along the spiral. That edge will cut flat along the surface, so as long as you engage more than one turn of the spiral and keep the bit's side flat against the sponge, it will not cut into the wood. You still need sanding for the last finishing.

Note that some drill bits have a raised leading edge on the side, and will not cut with the trailing edge of the spiral. With such a bit you need to move it towards you if you hold the shaft in the right hand. For left handers the more natural forward motion will work.

_________________
My blog of failures, etc., also containing equipment list at "resurrection" (referred to in a few of my early posts), and my current lineup
Rating in the middle/low range in the region.
Moderating the LP Attacking subforum in the Technique section.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 22 Jul 2014, 22:43 
Offline
Rambo Looper Spin First Ask Questions Later
Rambo Looper Spin First Ask Questions Later
User avatar

Joined: 02 Apr 2007, 14:36
Posts: 5293
Has thanked: 70 times
Been thanked: 214 times
Blade: Donic Persson Power Play
FH: Donic Bluestorm Z3
BH: Tibhar Aurus Soft
Some of the premades are made with glue that seems like it was nuclear fused to the blade, which tempts me to take the thing to an 8" grinder wheel. The usual method of using a rubber cutout doesn't do very well until you get all the sponge off and have only the glue to deal with. Any way you go about it, the job (if it is a fused on sponge) is a messy one.

BTW, XP 2008 is now an $8 USD rubber, woo-hoo. Still a better rubber than some USD $40 ones.

_________________
Goof-off chopping bat
Gambler All Rosewood
Aurus Soft / Gambler GXL .6 sponge

Status - Out of Business Janitor/Babysitter


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 23 Jul 2014, 03:12 
Offline
Goes to 11
Goes to 11
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2014, 20:27
Posts: 10686
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 1385 times
One thing I'm NOT short of is drill bits! I'll have to give that a try.

Iskandar


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 23 Jul 2014, 10:34 
Offline
Senior member

Joined: 09 Jun 2014, 01:46
Posts: 121
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 3 times
Did someone mention Butterfly Addoy? :)

Nice racket - good rubbers. I really enjoyed hitting with it.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 23 Jul 2014, 12:06 
Offline
Goes to 11
Goes to 11
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2014, 20:27
Posts: 10686
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 1385 times
Hmm. Thought maybe I'd get a sheet of the XP2008 from Tianjin Guanghe on Aliexpress (actually Eacheng under a different name) while they have their $2 coupon going (I somehow got a second coupon). But it's not listed! It IS available on eacheng proper, but shipping is extra (and they want $7.50 for it). So I do a search on AliExpress and this is the only instance that comes up:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DAWEI-20 ... 94174.html

"Table Tennis Museum"??? Hope that's not bad news... Too expensive, too. Not too long ago lots of people had it for sale, Eacheng.net even had a deal where you could buy 10 sheets for $3 each (plus shipping).

On the plus side - gee look at that - he's got sponge hardnesses all the way from 37 to 46. If I were to buy a sheet, wonder which one I should get.

Iskandar


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 25 Jul 2014, 12:52 
Offline
Goes to 11
Goes to 11
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2014, 20:27
Posts: 10686
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 1385 times
Just noticed - there's two versions of this. One is "XP", the other isn't.

Image
Image

Iskandar


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 25 Jul 2014, 12:59 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 14 Aug 2012, 23:08
Posts: 236
Location: Vanuatu
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 14 times
Blade: Nittaku Flyatt Carbon Pro
FH: Tibhar Aurus TC-1
BH: 729 802 2.1mm
iskandar taib wrote:
Just noticed - there's two versions of this. One is "XP", the other isn't.

Image
Image

Iskandar


The sponge is different..non xp has purple sponge and xp has orange sponge..xp sponge has better speed than non xp, but that's all.

_________________
Still Missing the Speed Glue


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2014, 04:58 
Offline
Rambo Looper Spin First Ask Questions Later
Rambo Looper Spin First Ask Questions Later
User avatar

Joined: 02 Apr 2007, 14:36
Posts: 5293
Has thanked: 70 times
Been thanked: 214 times
Blade: Donic Persson Power Play
FH: Donic Bluestorm Z3
BH: Tibhar Aurus Soft
Get the bottom one, it is eternal. The real deal.

_________________
Goof-off chopping bat
Gambler All Rosewood
Aurus Soft / Gambler GXL .6 sponge

Status - Out of Business Janitor/Babysitter


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 27 Jul 2014, 02:07 
Offline
The Pied Pipper
The Pied Pipper
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jun 2017, 23:16
Posts: 1325
Location: Somewhere out there!
Has thanked: 118 times
Been thanked: 35 times
Agree re - this rubber, once the tack goes it is very grippy, it is one of the few non-tacky rubbers that i barely have to alter my tacky looping style of play with to play at my usual standard. Bags of control and plenty of speed with 2mm.
Cheap to boot!

_________________
_________________
Think, before you drink, before you write!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2014, 20:05 
Offline
Goes to 11
Goes to 11
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2014, 20:27
Posts: 10686
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 1385 times
Got a sheet. One problem, though - boy, it's heavy. Uncut sheet is 77.2 grams! Typical Chinese rubber sheet is 62-68 grams.

Iskandar


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2014, 23:17 
Offline
The Pied Pipper
The Pied Pipper
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jun 2017, 23:16
Posts: 1325
Location: Somewhere out there!
Has thanked: 118 times
Been thanked: 35 times
iskandar taib wrote:
Got a sheet. One problem, though - boy, it's heavy. Uncut sheet is 77.2 grams! Typical Chinese rubber sheet is 62-68 grams.

Iskandar



Mmmmmm, chinese and heavy kind of go together, but with, 1 side ox, it is fairly relative, like a blade can have diff. between 20-30 grams so with 1 sise ox, it ain't too bad, esp. if on a light blade.

_________________
_________________
Think, before you drink, before you write!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 63 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next


Don't want to see this advertisement? Become a member and login, and you'll never see an ad again!



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 46 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Copyright 2018 OOAK Table Tennis Forum. The information on this site cannot be reused without written permission.

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group