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 Post subject: low trajectory LP
PostPosted: 09 Jul 2016, 08:11 
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im looking for low trajectory LP
but i know only 2 (grass d.tecs and palio ck531a)

do u know any more?


low/flat trajectory is most important in my pip style (long, low flight path of ball is always the hardest to attack strongly)

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 Post subject: Re: low trajectory LP
PostPosted: 09 Jul 2016, 12:39 
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"Garbol" Try Dr Neubauer Viper or his Viper Soft I used the Tibhar Grass D.Tecs but had some trouble over shooting the end of the table. Now I use the Viper with great results & I'm also training with the Viper Soft which is a bit slower :up:

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 Post subject: Re: low trajectory LP
PostPosted: 09 Jul 2016, 12:47 
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For chopping or blocking?
And I assume you are not wanting DG1.

2 to consider: Donic Paranja and Joola Badman for blocking.

For chopping....ox P-1r?

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 Post subject: Re: low trajectory LP
PostPosted: 09 Jul 2016, 15:23 
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Have you given Dtecs a serious go? I haven't tried the Viper, but from what I've read its a slower version of Dtecs.

Pogo isn't a bad one for low balls either with easy control.

These issues are rather blade dependent too though.

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 Post subject: Re: low trajectory LP
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I have tested a lot of pips
Im using short chop / chop block stroke 1 meter behind table (similar to fabian akerstrom chop)
That why i need low trajectory lp. Playing so close its hard to keep low strong topspins.
Grass - it has really low traj., irs good but problem is with its speed, and not enough backspin
P1r - great backspin, but hard to keep low playing close to table
Pogo - not enough distrubtion, backspin average
Globe 979 - had problema with costintacy, perhaps due pips align, average backspin
Dg1 - great backspin, durbality issue ( im playing 10h per week, pip is broking in 6 weekes)
Dg2 - less control and backspin comparing to other pips
Palio - too fast, not enough distrubtion
Viper soft - didnt test it, but people says it has high trajectory

Pls tell me pips with low trajectory, really pls :-(

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 Post subject: Re: low trajectory LP
PostPosted: 09 Jul 2016, 19:42 
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Maybe you need to try another blade, cos it sounds like you've tried enough pips. Try blade(s) with different characteristics to what you have with all those pips (assuming you still have them). Otherwise I think you will just keep seeking a holy grail pip that doesn't exist.

There is also one other thing to do...practice more on keeping the ball low using variations to your technique. Pick the pip that you feel gives the closest attributes to what you are seeking and work hard on your techniques.

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 Post subject: Re: low trajectory LP
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“Garbol’ as “RebornTTEvnglist” suggests my results have been on my blades which are Re-Impact Smart which is made from balsa. As stated I’m trying the Viper Soft but at this stage my preferred BH is the Viper OX which gives me good low trajectory on my smart blade.

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 Post subject: Re: low trajectory LP
PostPosted: 09 Jul 2016, 23:40 
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RebornTTEvnglist wrote:
Maybe you need to try another blade, cos it sounds like you've tried enough pips. Try blade(s) with different characteristics to what you have with all those pips (assuming you still have them). Otherwise I think you will just keep seeking a holy grail pip that doesn't exist.

There is also one other thing to do...practice more on keeping the ball low using variations to your technique. Pick the pip that you feel gives the closest attributes to what you are seeking and work hard on your techniques.


but there is a pip with all what i need
its DG1

but only problem with it is it's durbality ;)
(thats the reason why im looking other, similar)

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garbol wrote:

but there is a pip with all what i need
its DG1

but only problem with it is it's durbality ;)
(thats the reason why im looking other, similar)


DG is about half the cost of a dTecs. I would not mind paying $20 every 2 months for a new sheet.

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111Iceman111 wrote:
have u tried frictionless antis?
yes, it has less backspin tha pips (perhaps because my style is 1 meter behind table)
i had great blocks but near table (but cant play close to the table topspins game is too fast, and too strong topspins)


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DG is about half the cost of a dTecs. I would not mind paying $20 every 2 months for a new sheet.
grass didnt broke for i guess ever :)
its my oldest pip, it has almost 3 years and still it got all, no broken pips



does bomb talnets has low trajectory? didnt try it.
can u tell me other low trajectory pips?

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 Post subject: Re: low trajectory LP
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DG was uncontrollable on my blade. Dtecs works with right technique. If DG works for you stick with it.

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I found Number 1 and Agenda have quite low trajectory. The ball started sinking even on my own half of the table. I had to keep reminding myself not to close the angle otherwise the ball would go under the net. My setup is Bty Timo Boll ALC.

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garbol wrote:
does bomb talnets has low trajectory? didnt try it.


I've tried both red and black Bomb Talent. The black sheet has lower trajectory than the red. Aside from Dragon Talon, (black) Bomb Talent is probably the best Chinese LP I've ever tried.

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