OOAK Table Tennis Forum


A truly International Table Tennis Community for both Defensive and Offensive styles!
OOAK Forum Links About OOAK Table Tennis Forum OOAK Forum Memory
It is currently 27 Apr 2024, 00:03


Don't want to see any advertising? Become a member and login, and you'll never see an ad again!



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: 27 Dec 2016, 11:52 
Offline
New Member

Joined: 27 Dec 2016, 11:26
Posts: 16
Location: Chicago
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 1 time
Blade: Donic JO Dicon
FH: Mendo
BH: Mendo
I was a tennis player in highschool and eventually got into TT through my hitting partner, played at the basement and informal club level. Went back to school and started playing with the university club a few months ago. For all purposes I am a beginner.

Over the holidays I found the Donic Dicon JO blade and Mendo rubber that is still on there, purchased around 2003. I must have bought it based on my friend's recommendation because I really didn't know anything back then. The blade is classed as OFF- and seems to be a decent allround one from research.

I have settled on Mark V rubber after many (many) hours of research. I realize there is newer faster stuff out there and cheaper Chinese stuff that is similar, but this seems to be a tried and tested beginner setup. And it's easy to find and the quality control should be decent.

Seems there's much controversy over how fast this rubber actually is. I understand it was popularized during the speed glue and 38mm ball era. Our playing conditions today are different.
Would 2.0mm FH and 1.8mm BH be too much starting out? Or would 1.8/1.8 or even 1.8/1.5 be a better idea? No speed glue. I tend to be a topspin attacking player, but would like to improve my skillset and be better allround.

Thanks in advance.


Last edited by vinuneuro on 27 Dec 2016, 12:18, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 


PostPosted: 27 Dec 2016, 12:03 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 26 Sep 2015, 07:15
Posts: 574
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Has thanked: 73 times
Been thanked: 93 times
Blade: Acoustic Carbon Inner ST
FH: Rakza Z
BH: Rakza Z
If you're an attacking player, I wouldn't go lower than 1.8mm. It's not actually that fast. I use 1.8mm on my backhand and the control is very good, very linear. This linearity does mean you usually have to put some spin and/or speed into your strokes, or a passive hit becomes a sitting duck for your opponent to practise their attack on.

Occasionally contact feels a little woody, which I guess might be a sign of bottoming out. If this is a concern, 2.0mm would still be a safe BH choice.

_________________
"Once you get past a certain threshold, everyone's problems are the same: fortifying your island and hiding the heat signature from your fusion reactor." –Doctor Impossible


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 27 Dec 2016, 12:08 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 26 Sep 2015, 07:15
Posts: 574
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Has thanked: 73 times
Been thanked: 93 times
Blade: Acoustic Carbon Inner ST
FH: Rakza Z
BH: Rakza Z
BTW one of my teammates is also a new (old) player. He came back after ~20 years, with his old Stiga Offensive Classic and old Mark V – replaced with fresh Mark V after a season – on both sides (not sure of thickness, I think 2.0mm). He's a chopper but occasionally switches to a topspin game, and gets plenty of service and looping spin with the Mark V.

_________________
"Once you get past a certain threshold, everyone's problems are the same: fortifying your island and hiding the heat signature from your fusion reactor." –Doctor Impossible


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 27 Dec 2016, 12:42 
Offline
Goes to 11
Goes to 11
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2014, 20:27
Posts: 10688
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 1385 times
I'd actually suggest 2.2 (or max) sponge, both sides. In the old days most people would stop at 2mm because the ball was smaller (38mm instead of 40mm). The recent move to the plastic ball has made the ball even slower, so I think even beginners can easily handle max sponge, especially since you're not talking about Tenergy or Tensors. Many, many Chinese rubbers (especially the cheaper, "training" ones) ONLY come in 2.2mm sponge. Thinner sponge, these days, in my opinion, is for specialized purposes - choppers, blockers, users of Re-Impact blades and the like.

Iskandar


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 27 Dec 2016, 13:23 
Offline
Dark Knight
Dark Knight
User avatar

Joined: 13 Dec 2006, 12:34
Posts: 33353
Location: Adelaide, AU
Has thanked: 2760 times
Been thanked: 1550 times
Blade: Trinity Carbon
FH: Victas VS > 401
BH: Dr N Troublemaker OX
I reckon 2.0mm as well, just to give you a little more control, and this should be plenty (thick enough) for an attacking game. The rubber is not fast compared to many modern rubbers, but still it's considered an offensive class rubber, and it's still considerably faster than most Chinese rubbers, and the blade has good speed as well.

_________________
OOAK Table Tennis Shop | Re-Impact Blades | Butterfly Table Tennis bats
Setup1: Re-Impact Smart, Viper OX, Victas VS 401 Setup2: Re-Impact Barath, Dtecs OX, TSP Triple Spin Chop 1.0mm Setup3: Re-Impact Dark Knight, Hellfire OX, 999 Turbo
Recent Articles: Butterfly Tenergy Alternatives | Tenergy Rubbers Compared | Re-Impact User Guide


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 27 Dec 2016, 16:58 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 14 Aug 2012, 23:08
Posts: 236
Location: Vanuatu
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 14 times
Blade: Nittaku Flyatt Carbon Pro
FH: Tibhar Aurus TC-1
BH: 729 802 2.1mm
Early last year i bought mark v in order to relish old days speed glues experience..but i found it doesn't sync very much with polyballs..the topsheet seems doesn't grip much the polyballs(tho it was so grippy when new)..it still can spin and got decent speed but not at the level that i want it to be, even it was glued..from my experience sriver and mendo mp react better to polyballs than mark v but not as good as modern rubbers.

_________________
Still Missing the Speed Glue


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 07 Feb 2017, 22:01 
Offline
New Member

Joined: 07 Feb 2017, 21:54
Posts: 1
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time
Hi thepiratebays.so You will be a good tennis player.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 




All times are UTC + 9:30 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 359 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Copyright 2018 OOAK Table Tennis Forum. The information on this site cannot be reused without written permission.

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group