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PostPosted: 15 Jul 2017, 18:45 
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Hi.
I'm classic defender, i'm looking for chop every time, even with not really offensive players. I play VKM+ DTecs 1.2+ Vs>401 1.8 and its still a bit too fast for me. The time i chop with bh it often goes inch or two behind the table, sometimes i have to slow down my arm while chopping. VKM is not a really def blade, it's something like all-, i need a typical def blade :)
There are 2 blades that paid my attention:
-Nittaku Resist II - it's at sale at my shop, about 45$ but i have no informations what blade it is.
-Donic Defplay senso - nice, because it's cheap, classic in def style but didn't play with this blade.
Maybe something with balsa? However, i'm afraid it will be too springy. I played Barricade DEF with Easy P OX and it's interesting, but you see- i played it with OX, not 1.2 nor 1.0 sponge :) There is also VKM Def at sale, but 75$ is still too much for me.

PS Forgot about Donic Siono Masato DEF- how about this? ;)

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PostPosted: 15 Jul 2017, 20:02 
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Someone at our club just bought an LKT Toxic 3. Apparently very slow.

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- There is a DEF model of VKM, last week I played and it was great, medium hard feel, a ''thin'' blade and it's still possible to produce strong attacks when needed. Control :up: and one of the best for chopping. Definitely, I'd have this instead of Donic Defplay if I chop a lot.

- I have Nittaku Resist experience, not Resist 2...if 2 has the same composition I'd suggest it. Very good for chopping.

-Another option is Nittaku Endless. Medium hard feel.

-Tibhar CO-S3, softer feel, 3 plies

-Donic Appelgren Exclusive Allround, standard head size, flex and control :up:


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2017, 19:53 
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As i wrote yesterday- VKM Def is a bit too expensive for me. Also it could be too hard. I need rather softer blade, because i play hard LPs like P1R or DTecs and hard fh rubber. So Resist seems to be the best choice for me :)

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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2017, 20:06 
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Btw, are you LordPippington from TTD?

The question you asking are somewhat similar. ;)

And, I see You have tried Barricade. That among the slowest blade You could find. If You like Barricade, buy it. :D

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Butterfly Defence Alpha
Dr. Neubauer Barricade DEF
KTL (LKT) Toxic 3
Xiom Aigis
Stiga Tube Defensive WRB
Donic Defplay Classic Senso
Butterfly Matsushita Pro
Butterfly Innershield ZLF



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The Nittaku Resist 2 is a very slow blade! It's probably one of the slowest I've seen, if not the slowest. The straight handle is also one of the smallest I've seen... smaller than the defplay senso straight handle for comparison.


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OK guys, blade is at my hands, i bought Resist II, unfortunately they hadn't straight handle, just flared. It's nice because in spite of my large hands i like thin handles. I rarely change sides while playing so flared shouldn't disturb me. Apart from that i put P1R 1.0 on my bh side and Vs>401 1.8. Will see how it will play. However my 401 is too small and i will have to buy new inverted. I wonder to buy Marder because of price, heard it's nice for classic defence, something like Btf tackiness CII. I have to test new equipment and then decide wha to do with fh ;)

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PostPosted: 20 Jul 2017, 02:12 
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rocket222 wrote:
OK guys, blade is at my hands, i bought Resist II, unfortunately they hadn't straight handle, just flared. It's nice because in spite of my large hands i like thin handles. I rarely change sides while playing so flared shouldn't disturb me. Apart from that i put P1R 1.0 on my bh side and Vs>401 1.8. Will see how it will play. However my 401 is too small and i will have to buy new inverted. I wonder to buy Marder because of price, heard it's nice for classic defence, something like Btf tackiness CII. I have to test new equipment and then decide wha to do with fh ;)



Tackiness chop is a good option (it's what I have on it) for classic defense. The marder is similar, but not as high quality overall. Cheaper as well though, so you can replace it more often. Marder 1 is very soft, while marder 2 is a bit harder and closer to tackiness chop 2 yet the sponge of marder 2 isn't as hard. I have the nittaku revspin, which is supposed to be really good for defending. Having said that, I've not used it on any blade yet. First observations is that it's quite a bit heavier (uncut sheet) than most others by a good margin (10+ grams). If you use pips on one side, it will probably not matter. Looks to be well made, and soft as well. Just above the level of tackiness chop, I'd say. The topsheet is firmer, while I believe the sponges are the same hardness.


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