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 Post subject: Dr Neubauer - ABS
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2009, 19:17 
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Does anyone know anything about this rubber?

Is is still due out in May and how will it differ from the Anti Special?

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts :)

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 Post subject: Re: Dr Neubauer - ABS
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Chris, close your ears to all things non-Bomb Talent related, recover from your EJ bug and forget ABS! :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Dr Neubauer - ABS
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2009, 22:13 
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No I don't want it Richard. A chap at our club meeting last night plays with anti and was asking me about it. I checked the Neubauer website earlier and couldn't find any information on it, so I thought I'd ask here.

I'm still sticking with BT, even thought I'm useless with it :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Dr Neubauer - ABS
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Do you know where it fits into the Neubauer product range? Is it meant to be slower than Anti Special?

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 Post subject: Re: Dr Neubauer - ABS
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Carrson (Neub.'s seniors son) said May.

They keep putting back the release date.

AS was nice, but too predictable, more so than SB. What worries me with this stuff is that the harder the stroke that you are returning the less reverse it carries due to the sponge. A chop motion does avoid this however.

MNNB understands some of the technical aspect of ABS, but really with BT and D.techs there isn't much point continuing to EJ its really about where on the disruption scale (distance from the table) you want to play.

It was good that Neub. pulled off getting anti below the frictionless threshold and I suspect ABS will be an improvement. It will be useful for some, perhaps someone learning reverse spin, but its too limiting.

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 Post subject: Re: Dr Neubauer - ABS
PostPosted: 21 May 2009, 10:57 
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 Post subject: Re: Dr Neubauer - ABS
PostPosted: 21 May 2009, 21:53 
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ABS looks too much like AS.

AS is a good rubber no doubt - with the exceptions I've stated previously. What I would question is why there is a low uptake by the anti community. Why doesn't Speedplay like it?

I think that Neubauer will get there in the end. I really do. For the player though its an expensive process on the drip, drip, drip of releases. Preciously how you introduce a 'disruption factor' into a high control and high reversal anti is beyond me but they seem to have several pieces of the puzzle assembled.

The thing I'd like resolving is the excessive sponge.

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 Post subject: Re: Dr Neubauer - ABS
PostPosted: 22 May 2009, 06:00 
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Thats what I meant. You don't see it as "special" you just see it as a regular anti.

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 Post subject: Re: Dr Neubauer - ABS
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no one here that got a chance to play with the a-b-s pre-release? it would be very interesting to find out how much slower it is than the neubauer anti special!

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no one here that got a chance to play with the a-b-s pre-release? it would be very interesting to find out how much slower it is than the neubauer anti special!

Have you been able to control the Anti Special any better than this guy?


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Have you been able to control the Anti Special any better than this guy?



to be honest i dont quite understand why he plays with an anti...the way he plays, i would claim that a long pimple rubber would make more sense for him..

i played with the anti for the second time tonight against a first league player who has ver powerful topspins. its getting better and better..i can attack the same way i did with the long pimples, the difference being that it is easier to attack balls without spin, that aside, the balls are far less predictable with the anti, he hardly knew what was coming. the other reason why i will continue this experiment are the blocks: many of the blocks come in a very short and flat manner and he is forced to chop or raise the ball. the only big problem with the anti: apart from not being used to it, there are far too many unforced errors when blocking, i havent "understood" the rubber yet to be honest ;) if the a-b-s is equally slippery on the surface but clearly is slower then i think things might look better :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Dr Neubauer - ABS
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 Post subject: Re: Dr Neubauer - ABS
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