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hes a bit rusty about a year without playing or training. wearing the chinese shirt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4sqduFk-tU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8VglTH27Hc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87VQ-99rVVU

hes a bit rusty

i was planning to get more videos of him the next day for the last 16 playing. but unfortunately i had to work late that night and ouldnt be up early enough to go down to record..

he did place 5th over all and 3rd in his group of 8. playing agaisnt people who train regularly while he works in an office as an accountant. for the last few years.
as a Teenager He trained with Chen Qi for the provincial team

heres an old'ish clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0k8qcJRJ1I

where he beats current N1 in ireland( back then Na ning was N1 for 3 years in a row or so)

if you listen it tells you about John Murphy a little ( Ning's opponent) there are a few clips of him like this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pv0p-OdI_c

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What sort of grade was this event?

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this is a clasification event. this was their last qualifying round to get to the main event which was the next day where the 4 qualifiers from these games get to play agaist the 12 seeded players (top 12). unfortunately i didnt get to record any of those games..

here are the results http://www.irishtabletennis.com/itta/ne ... ssication/

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As he plays today I will give him a Victoria rating of... somewhere between 1550 and 1650. You can't really hold a level higher than that without some ongoing training

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I take it you don't have a tripod decoy The camera position and work could have been better lol, but it was good enough to see what he's like for sure. I haven't watched a lot of it, but I'd say he looks around the US2200-2300 bracket or maybe a little higher if I'd watched more from what Foam has said.

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I dunno. This is the 2nd clip I saw. First clip he looked maybe 2000ish. This clip maybe 2100ish. He misses too many balls and misses some attacks a higher rated player almost never misses. He does well on continued attack, but his oppenent isn't exactly spinning and hookshotting him out of the arena. If he trained with Chen Qi at any age and was worthy enough to even be his water boy, he would be at least 2500+. Maybe he is a lot rustier than we expect and maybe he isn't a fraction of his prior level or isn't trying as hard.

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Well I watched the clip from a few years ago also and I'm guessing half way through the tournament he would be playing less rusty. From my understanding of the US system he's US2200 ish I'd say.

I just look at him and say would I beat him once he was warmed up? = no. Would carbonman beat him? = yes. So he's somewhere in the middle, then I compare him to a couple good juniors I know would they beat him? .... can't be sure so that's about where I think he is.

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I remind you all of the original ratings conversion...

2500-2650 USATT player = 700-300 ITTF world ranking.
2350-2450 USATT player = 1100-750 ITTF world ranking

When at his best, Ning would have been comfortably between 500 and 800 as a world level, so somewhere between 2350 and 2550. He has absolutely fantastic footwork. You also don't forget a lifetime of training simply because you are working as an accountant for a few years! I have had the pleasure of playing him many times, the guy is an absolute gent. He was the Irish no 1 for about 3 years, before concentrating on his accountancy career. I've played 2200 USA ranked players and I've played Ning, night and day in terms of level. It just shows how difficult it is to estimate ratings off a video. I think I have a video somewhere of him playing and beating Lenhart Wheking, a week or so after Wheking beat Henzell in the Bangor open so that the Aussies can have a reference....

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well you simply must fish that one out

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I can't believe that ratings conversion is anywhere near correct. If it were then the ITTF list is pretty useless for ranking players below 400 or so. God knows how many unknown 2500-2600 players are in China alone (imagine how many 2350 players there would be!). If some players of the sub-2500 US ratings standard sneak into that ITTF range that would presumably be due to so many strong players not playing in ITTF ranked tourneys.

The most recent clips of Ning show he is definitely very rusty. If you play the physical FH dominant game he plays it can initially take a bit of time to get back into shape but I agree that he would never lose the class he gained through all of his training. I looked at the older clip of him and he is a very strong player indeed. He reminds me a lot of Kim Taek Soo - great footwork and a very powerful FH. Based on the earlier clip I would guess he was at least 2550-2600 but I wouldn't be surprised if he were comfortably higher.

aye i could see the difference between now and then his 3rd ball used to be way more lethal than this. and he was waay faster. sometimes he doesnt always go for power hell start playign around kinda like ma lin does sometimes doing some weird stuff.

+ he also had to reserve some strength for next days games where he played agaisnt #2 #3 #6 #7 #10 #17. where he only lost vs #2 and #6 ranked players. loosing 3-0 to #2.

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the other group of 8 was an easier group the player ranking was much more spread out( more gaps in the rank),

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yeah, his FH's in the earlier clip were devastating but now they are 3/4 pace by comparison. This is understandable of course - it takes a high degree of fitness to play like he does at his top and working as an accountant is no great training regime.

he topld me that he recently started playing badminton.. i i think he wants to get his fitness up to some point i guess

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He's definitely around national level of most non Table tennis power countries in the old clip. Rusted as a XA Falcon in the new ones.

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