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I found this on mytt, and was wondering if some of our Japanese-speaking friends here can shed some further light on what it means. It's from a Japanese Table Tennis magazine, comparing rubbers to Tenergy (not sure which Tenergy).

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They're comparing the rubbers to T05.
The scores mean "most similar to T05".
The scores do not mean "better or worse than T05".

The performance categories (in order of their appearance on the "podium" image) are:
スピード Speed
グリツプ Grip
回転量 Spin
コン卜ロール (上回転) Control (topspin)
弾道 (弧線) Trajectory (arc)
弾道 (直線) Trajectory (straight line)
コン卜ロール (下回転) Control (backspin)

You can see the winners in the image with the podiums.
V-15 Extra won both Speed and Spin, with three podium appearances total.
Omega V Euro wins "most podium appearances", with four.


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So to summarise:

スピード Speed
1. Victas V>15 Extra
2. Mizuno GF T48
3. Joola Rhyzm-P

グリツプ - Grip
1. Target Pro GT-M43
2. Victas V>15 Extra
3. Xiom Omega V Euro

回転量 - Spin
1. Victas V>15 Extra
2. Yasaka Rakza X Soft
3. Xiom Omega V Euro

コン卜ロール (上回転) - Control (topspin)
1. Joola Rhyzm-P
2. Target Pro GT-M43
3. Xiom Omega V Euro

弾道 (弧線) - Trajectory (arc)
1. Donic Bluefire JP-02
2. TSP Ventus Speed
3. Rasant Grip

弾道 (直線) - Trajectory (straight line)
1. Fastarc G1
2. Joola Rhyzm-P
3. Mizuno GF T48

コン卜ロール (下回転) - Control (backspin)
1. Ventus Speed
2. Omega V Euro
3. Bluefire JP-02

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For anyone that reads this magazine, does it looks like a genuine test?

I'm also not clear on what they mean with the trajectories. Is the 'arc' referring to the height of the trajectory, ie high throw, and the 'flat' referring to counter-looping ability perhaps? I didn't think the throw of the JP02 was that high.

Does the "Control (topspin)" refer to control looping a topspin, ie a counter-loop, and " Control (backspin)" refer to looping a backspin ball?

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Alex, if I understand it well, the scores mean how similar the rubbers are to Tenergy. Number one then means: most similar to Tenergy regarding that specific characteristic...

So that means that if Tenergy would have low control, the rubber that is placed on number one also has low control

For me it's a bit confusing, and I don't care much about Tenergy. It might be interesting for people who already play Tenergy and who are looking for alternatives.

Any information on how this 'blind test' is done? By how many players, level, etc.?

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Pipsy wrote:
Any information on how this 'blind test' is done? By how many players, level, etc.?

I'd like to see some more information on this too, but since several manufacturer have mentioned this same article to me, I do believe it was a credible test with high level players.

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Pipsy wrote:
Alex, if I understand it well, the scores mean how similar the rubbers are to Tenergy. Number one then means: most similar to Tenergy regarding that specific characteristic...

So that means that if Tenergy would have low control, the rubber that is placed on number one also has low control

For me it's a bit confusing, and I don't care much about Tenergy. It might be interesting for people who already play Tenergy and who are looking for alternatives.

Any information on how this 'blind test' is done? By how many players, level, etc.?


Someone posted a huge list (gleaned from Racket Control at a major tournament) of rubbers the top players used. The winner by a huge margin (based on the sheer number of people using it) was Tenergy 05. I remember players coming by the Butterfly booth to see what it was selling for at the WTTC. Whatever it's properties, it sure is popular (and terribly expensive), hence all the interest in finding a "substitute". I'll probably buy a sheet in a couple months just to see for myself. I can get it for something like $57 here.

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