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PostPosted: 31 Jul 2018, 17:41 
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I promise not to steal your work; and believe me, I don't know what you watch - your tin foil hat keeps my thought waves at bay!

I think Leigh Griffiths is at the 3 minute mark, and he is wondering how quickly he can get away from the interviewer, and if he is dangerous...

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I watched that a few weeks ago,please do not steal my work!

At the 6minute mark superstar footballer Leigh Griffiths is driving to the stadium - is then asked for his take on the flat earth. His facial expressions are pretty funny when confronted by the 'truth' for the very first time.

The first young guy working at the canteen was your usual head in the sand guy - very much a sheep.

Ooh, this is interesting! Nothing from mac33 for weeks, and then an immediate response accusing someone of stealing his "work"!

What do we take from this?
    1. Posting a youtube video constitutes his "work". So much for independent thought.
    2. Anyone who disagrees with mac's viewpoint is a "sheep". So much for respectful dialogue.
    3. mac33 is closely following what happens in this thread, but... refuses to respond to anything unless it suits his agenda.

I guess it's the last one which annoys me most. He's watching us take this seriously, posting counterarguments to his "work", but simply will not answer simple questions he's asked. His rudeness is quite breathtaking.

Here's another question for you to ignore, mac: Why can't you respond like a normal, decent human being?


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I've posed many questions myself that have went unanswered - like why are we able to see the Chicago skyline from the beach across the bay,distance approx 60 miles.

I've yet to receive a suitable answer.

I've read so far that it is a mirage caused by refraction or some other whacko belief.

Certainly does not look like a mirage to see,more like the real thing.


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mac33 wrote:
I've posed many questions myself that have went unanswered - like why are we able to see the Chicago skyline from the beach across the bay,distance approx 60 miles.

I've yet to receive a suitable answer.

I've read so far that it is a mirage caused by refraction or some other whacko belief.

Certainly does not look like a mirage to see,more like the real thing.

https://flatearthinsanity.blogspot.com/ ... om-mi.html

If you insist that you have not received a suitable answer, then I will agree that you haven't. You have, however, received a correct answer. We can't do anything with the fact that the correct answer does not suit you.

The page linked above discusses that answer in more detail than what I believe has been done previously in this thread. You will dismiss that answer again, by classifying refraction as "whacko belief" (which says a lot).


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mac33 wrote:
I've posed many questions myself that have went unanswered - like why are we able to see the Chicago skyline from the beach across the bay,distance approx 60 miles.

I've yet to receive a suitable answer.

I've read so far that it is a mirage caused by refraction or some other whacko belief.

Certainly does not look like a mirage to see,more like the real thing.

Just a little disingenuous, mac. The answer has been given lots of times, but you refuse to accept the science. Nothing we can do about that.

FACT: It is possible to see objects >60 miles away, given the curvature of the earth removes from sight the lowest portion of an object before the highest. Pictures have been posted here which clearly show that the visible part is only the upper parts of the skyline. Do you need us to post those pictures again?

FACT: Refraction a mirage. I've already posted a picture illustrating that. Light bends = scientific fact. The result of that is seen every single day in all sorts of ways. Just go and get a glass, fill it with water, put a straight skewer in it, then look at it. You know the skewer is not bent, even though it appears to be. In the same way light bends through the atmosphere.

FACT: (I know I'm at risk of confusing you here by now talking about mirages, but they are a subset of refraction.) In a mirage, what is seen is "the real thing", even though the atmosphere causes the light to bend. From our good friends over at Wikipedia: "In contrast to a hallucination, a mirage is a real optical phenomenon that can be captured on camera, since light rays are actually refracted to form the false image at the observer's location. What the image appears to represent, however, is determined by the interpretive faculties of the human mind." Notice, mac33, the last sentence - "the interpretive faculties of the human mind". If someone interprets a refracted sky as water and refuses to accept that it's not water, that's a problem with the person, not the image.

FACT: You've been asked to prove your straight edge is straight and have never attempted to answer the question.


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mac33 wrote:
I've posed many questions myself that have went unanswered - like why are we able to see the Chicago skyline from the beach across the bay,distance approx 60 miles.

I've yet to receive a suitable answer.


Oh?? I posted an answer right here:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29637&start=345#p353961

I even took screen shots from that video you posted. You can clearly see the bottom parts of the buildings were not visible at full distance because they were hidden behind the horizon, but became visible as you get closer. And believe me, the calculation you use to "prove" that the skyline should not be visible is based on bad geometry - just because it's been passed from person to person on YouTube doesn't make it right.

You posted that video, not me. Flat Earthers shot that video, not me.

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What do we take from this?
[list]1. Posting a youtube video constitutes his "work". So much for independent thought.


Actually it's worse... apparently WATCHING YouTube videos constitutes his "work".. :lol:

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PostPosted: 03 Aug 2018, 03:05 
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Actually, Flat Earthers, as conspiracists, are probably relatively harmless. THIS, however, worries the heck out of me:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/06/opin ... heory.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/us/p ... qanon.html

Unfortunately, flat earthers would be the type of people who'd probably lap this up. They already think there's some sort of all-powerful cabal controlling the world.

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