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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Gigant
PostPosted: 03 Aug 2018, 13:19 
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I’m a long time LP defensive player but the video of play with this rubber looks very interesting & tempting. :?: All my previous attempts at using antis for me have been between poor to hopeless. :swear: :@ But here I go again I’m trying Gigant this new anti by Spinlord.....I do like experimenting :cash: :^) 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Gigant
PostPosted: 17 Aug 2018, 18:35 
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Well I had my first hit with the Gigant today & it was very interesting :clap: boy is it slow but as a long time LP player I hardly had to make any adjustment in using this rubber. :up: As TraditionalTradesman said just hit the ball hard & you get great flat returns then when you have pushed them away from the table you then block with very disruptive effects :*: Early days but looks great 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Gigant
PostPosted: 17 Aug 2018, 22:59 
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Gollum wrote:
Well I had my first hit with the Gigant today & it was very interesting :clap: boy is it slow but as a long time LP player I hardly had to make any adjustment in using this rubber. :up: As TraditionalTradesman said just hit the ball hard & you get great flat returns then when you have pushed them away from the table you then block with very disruptive effects :*: Early days but looks great 8)


Hello! I do like experimenting.I could give it a try because this rubber seems to work well with LP strokes.My question is : how do you manage long,fast spinless balls on serves??? . Can you attack with a wrist movement giving rotation to the ball??
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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Gigant
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2018, 03:45 
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CHARMANDER DEFENDER wrote:
My question is : how do you manage long,fast spinless balls on serves??? . Can you attack with a wrist movement giving rotation to the ball??


Against fast no-spin serves, you can either attack with a hard straight-on motion w/o wrist (sort of the way the guy shows you how to hit in the video in this thread), or you can do a kind of sideswipe against the back of the ball w/ wrist, generating a funky slightly curved trajectory. The second shot is a bit more tricky for offensive players to handle, it seemed to me. I'd be curious to know how you guys wind up feeling about this rubber. I found that it's too easy for loopers to keeping coming at you again and again due to the lack of spin reversal, I found attacks to be easy but also not that dangerous and I found that you're too much of a sitting duck for flat-hitters.

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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Gigant
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2018, 16:29 
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TraditionalTradesman For me it's to early to tell as I've only had one good session with it, what I really like is how you can drive them away from the table then chop/ block the ball just over the net with great control :clap: Very impressed how easily you can take incredible pace off the ball without prior notice :up: At this stage still using my No. 1 set up in competition.

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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Gigant
PostPosted: 20 Aug 2018, 07:35 
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The guys at TT-Maximum just posted a video testing out the Gigant and doing some blocking with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCrzxHJVxUk



Frankly, I don't think the guy doing the blocking (who normally plays with long pips and is great with those) is maximizing this rubber's potential because he's taking the ball too late, which is resulting in it landing further out on the opponent's side table than it would if he took it right off the bounce.

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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Gigant
PostPosted: 20 Aug 2018, 13:26 
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I only tried it for 5 minutes myself on an Invictus and will merely say that it is the slowest rubber I've ever tried. More importantly though my practice partner today (2050-2100ish FL2 0.5 chopper) would simply not put it down so I got a good 2+ hours playing against it. He took to it right away (in a table hugging, off the bounce style) and was amazingly consistent at blocking everything back, low and often short. It was actually pretty demoralizing as I just could not break through the wall whether looping hard, or flat (better results here if you can manage), anything. He was not trying to attack much at all or do anything fancy - just endless touch blocks off the bounce. The balls are not very weird; there is some reversal and you need to lift it a bit on a reloop, ultimately though the ball just kept dinking back over and over and over and I couldn't beat it today. Winding up on some crazy loop just meant the ball would dink back at me sometimes before I would finish recovering, especially if placed well. Were someone to invest a lot of time in this rubber (even better if mixed with either twiddle and/or athletic step around offense) then I think it has serious potential (sure did in that guys hands anyway). I expect the best results to come from off the bounce touch blocks though - mid/chopping distance doesn't sound threatening because you want a quick (and low, and maybe short, and placed well) return block to give the attacker the least time for their next shot.

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