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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2018, 01:32 
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Last weekend playing with XuShaFa, Yinhe,Stag, Artengo 1*+3*** and Nittaku premium 40+ . Boy ! was there a big big difference in arc, loop, consistency in my loops! :-S

Yinhe,Stag,XuShafa played similar and Artengo was slightly off but Nittaku was waaay off ... Felt almost too light ... Almost similar to cell ball but flatter and weirdly bouncier ... Impossible to play my power loops from below the table nothing worked except almost 50% reduction in power and slow looping :'-(

Is there some other technique to "fix" my difficulties ... I am forced to play varying balls in the local competitions.

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This is a great question. I can't think of a technique to help you.

Was the weekend all one event? or several different ones? If it was one event, keep one ball with you for all matches.

Round here an event (tournament, not individual classes of a tournament) specifically states on the entry form that a particular brand and model of ball will be used.

If there are multiple team matches on a weekend at the one venue, my expectation would be that all the team matches would use the same brand and model of ball.

For our pennant comp (home and away team matches over many weeks) we originally attempted to standardize on what our governing body was using. At one stage that was Stag seamless (rebadged XSF) then Double Fish V40+, however this was tied up in sponsorship. Currently we allow the home team to supply any 3* 40+ ITTF sanctioned ball. This means Nittaku Premium 40+ mostly, with DHS D40+ & Double FishV40+ as well. A particular problem is where a home team is playing in a squash court, think white walls - I think we still allow celluloid orange 3* for that venue. So on a particular night only one type of ball is used.

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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2018, 12:50 
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Yeah i have long tine back played in tournaments with different ball within the same venue. But last w'end was just practice :-D
I expect future tourneys to be of similar nature :-P :-) but want to find ways to cope.

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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2018, 15:44 
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On our tournament entry forms in Australia they usually state the type of ball used. If entering something you might see if you can find out early then buy some balls the same. Apart from that, I'd expect good technique would be your best way of proofing against various balls.

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PostPosted: 12 Jul 2018, 20:37 
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Like I mentioned, with XSF, Yinhe I can let "rip" very very effective and powerful loop-drive FH and BH strokes even from well below the table. I can "feel" the weight of the ball on contact.

But with Nittaku P40+ it is almost the same kind of "floaty" "lightweight" feeling with the same strokes makes the ball travel longer and flatter in trajectory. More balls going long and out and not arcing and looping down on to the table.

How can I adjust? Reducing power just makes the return very weak and sometimes popping up. Thinner brushing contact results in more ball contact misses.

There has to be some way to minimally adjust with the same strokes and deliver equal or on-par power+spin without that much loss in control. Do I contact early on-the-bounce ? Do I try to leave the ball later and play more upswing strokes? Do I play more in-front of the body or to-the-side ?

Something ? Anything ? :D someone please help! :lol: ... well as long as it puts my game on the right track! :-)

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  • DHS PowerG-9 : FH/BH-729SuperFX
  • Stag Balsa Koto : FH/BH-YRD/YR9
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  • Yasaka Battle Balsa(ST) : FH/BH-YSD
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PostPosted: 12 Jul 2018, 21:42 
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man_iii wrote:
Last weekend playing with XuShaFa, Yinhe,Stag, Artengo 1*+3*** and Nittaku premium 40+ . Boy ! was there a big big difference in arc, loop, consistency in my loops! :-S

Yinhe,Stag,XuShafa played similar and Artengo was slightly off but Nittaku was waaay off ... Felt almost too light ... Almost similar to cell ball but flatter and weirdly bouncier ...

At our club we play with Nittaku balls and they might be closest to old balls. And they feel different from Xiom, Xushaofa etc. I think all our players prefer Nittaku, as other's feel too big and unspinny.


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